nope. we did this discussion further down: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2339287 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2339287 raised VC in '81, IPO in '8

nope. we did this discussion further down: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2339287 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2339287 raised VC in '81, IPO in '86 why isn't an IPO considered an outside investment in this argument anyway? it is, afterall, raising money the argument should be what is the largest software company that never raised external funding and is still private