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Your perspective is skewed, and the example is arguably irrelevant. It’s not difficult to find examples where the situation is far worse than the US. There is
by lawnchair_larry 6y ago
Your perspective is skewed, and the example is arguably irrelevant. It’s not difficult to find examples where the situation is far worse than the US.
There is no reason for them to be killing as many people as they do.
Yes, there is absolutely a reason. There is a reason for everything. If you want to fix it, you need to set your emotions aside and get to the root cause of that reason. If you continue to deny that there is a reason, you can expect the same tragic result.
- mulmen 6y agoPlease, enlighten us. Why is "shot by police" the leading cause of death among black men? What is your proposed solution?
- asdfgtrewq 6y agoAround 15 black men killed in Chicago on memorial day weekend. And that is normal number of homicides on any of the long weekends. During regular weekends that number is bit lower in high single digits. Almost all of them black on black violence.
- asdfgasdfg 6y agoAround 15 black men killed in Chicago on memorial day weekend. And that is normal number of homicides on any of the long weekends. During regular weekends that number is bit lower in high single digits. Almost all of them black on black violence. Nothing to do with current situation. These are numbers for BAU.
- lawnchair_larry 6y agoIt isn’t. Not even remotely close. What a silly stat to invent. For what it’s worth, black men kill more cops than cops kill unarmed black men.
- mulmen 6y agoApologies, I misread [1] and didn't apply the sniff test. It's the sixth leading cause of death, not the first. And it's 2.5x the rate of whites. Regarding your second claim, I can't find those numbers. The closest thing I can find is this newsweek piece [2] with data from 2013 and 2014. That suggests most people who kill police are white. But it also includes prison guards as police. [1]: https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shoo... [2]: https://www.newsweek.com/who-kills-police-officers-315701 https://www.newsweek.com/who-kills-police-officers-315701
- cgriswald 6y agoHomicide is the leading cause of death among non-Hispanic black males under 44 (taken in total, it’s not) [0]. In the same year as the CDC statistics above, 223 black men were killed by police [1]. It’s tragic, but many orders of magnitude away from your claim. It’s not the quantity that makes it horrible, tragic, and infuriating. It is all those things because it’s evidence of a larger systemic issue which includes lots of other awful things that fall short of homocide; and it’s largely unnecessary. [0] https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2017/nonhispanic-black/index.htm#anchor_1571149616 https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2017/nonhispanic-b... [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-de...
- mulmen 6y agoThanks, I misread the source and didn't think about it. You're right the quantity isn't specifically important but it does illustrate that there is a problem. Even if it is not the #1 cause of death it is disproportionately higher.
- inimino 6y ago> Yes, there is absolutely a reason. Your point is valid, but reading "there is no reason" literally misses the intended meaning, which is "this is unacceptable and cannot stand".