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The expectation of the public is that police should prioritize deterrence and investigation of property crimes above assembling a massive show of force to depri
by logfromblammo 6y ago
The expectation of the public is that police should prioritize deterrence and investigation of property crimes above assembling a massive show of force to deprive peaceful protesters of their 1st amendment rights to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition government for redress of their grievances.
Cops that are busy kettling up protesters for later official intimidation and violence are not available to respond to crimes happening elsewhere.
Business owners are better off with insurance, alarms, and dedicated private security that won't abandon their protective duties every time they feel like pepper-spraying a liberal in the face for no apparent reason.
- freeone3000 6y agoRight, but then why have the police at all?
- logfromblammo 6y agoIs that a rhetorical question? There is no reason to have police that don't follow the Peelian principles.
- lawnchair_larry 6y agoYou say that now, but when the school shooter is at your kids school, suddenly you’ll think that a police force is a good idea. We can’t not have police, don’t be ridiculous.
- logfromblammo 6y agoPlease don't descend into strawman arguments and false dilemmas. It is not a binary choice between the militaristic, public-hostile police we have now, and no police at all. As it is, the police in schools frequently do inappropriate things, such as bodyslamming 40kg girls or putting children in handcuffs for acting up in class. A school security guard, charged with protecting the students and staff, with no authority to arrest or punish anyone, would do fine.
- staticassertion 6y agoI think if you throw away the existing system, you can still call what we replace it with "police" but it would be unrecognizable. We need something closer to social service workers, the vast majority of which do not require arms.