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I have never in my life seen an ambulance be stopped by a protest, nor have ever heard of such an incident ever occuring.

by jascii 6y ago

drocer88 6y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg
marcusverus 6y ago
Not a protest, but this exact thing occurred during the Fort Lee Lane closure scandal, when people intentionally created road closures in New Jersey. This was national news for awhile [0] Also, a lack of media coverage for a thing doesn't mean it doesn't happen, nor does rampant media coverage mean a thing is common. Remember the summer of the shark? [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lee_lane_closure_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lee_lane_closure_scandal [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_the_Shark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_the_Shark
- gdubs 6y ago
  It’s a lot harder for cars stuck on a bridge to move out of the way than it is for a crowd of people though, right?
  - Thorrez 6y ago
    If there's an ambulance stuck, it might be stuck behind a bunch of cars that can't move.
ABeeSea 6y ago
The armed right-wing lockdown protestors blocked an ambulance. And a right-wing governor threw a tantrum that blocked ambulances.
- testbot123 6y ago
  Not sure why you're being downvoted. There is documented evidence of this: > "To see this - traffic blocking the main intersection of a level 1 trauma centre, blocking the entrance and exit to our hospital. Blocking patients from receiving care that they need, makes me angry. It hurts. It hurts a lot," said one healthcare worker on Facebook. > WLNS reports another posting: "You are currently blocking ambulances, physicians and caregivers from making it to work to care for the sick and relieve the exhausted workers. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/operation-gridlock-lansing-michigan-protest-ambulance-gretchen-whitmer-social-distancing-coronavirus-a9468756.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... Quotes a local news story: https://www.wlns.com/news/health/coronavirus/capitol-protesters-snarl-streets-including-sparrow-hospital-area/ https://www.wlns.com/news/health/coronavirus/capitol-protest...
  - grandmczeb 6y ago
    That first story is repeating a (false) rumor. Even the second story you posted directly contradicts it. > Sparrow spokesperson John Foren said there are no access problems and ambulances can “get in and out. There’s no problem.” https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/21/police-rebut-whitmer-claims-ambulances-blocked-protest-traffic/5169518002/ https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/0...
    - testbot123 6y ago
      You're correct, I apologize.
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dbsmith83 6y ago
There are a lot of people out there who have important things that have to do with their health. Just because someone is not in an ambulance doesn't mean they don't have somewhere important to be. Not everyone with a medical condition rides in an ambulance.
- JamesBarney 6y ago
  But the vast majority of medical conditions where routing around a protest or road closure would cause serious harm to an individual are probably in ambulances.
  - dbsmith83 6y ago
    Not really sure what your point is regarding 'vast majority'. How many people's lives are acceptable to endanger? Just today, an interstate was shut down unexpectedly because of protesters. What about everyone who was trapped on that highway and could not move, let alone reroute?
    - JamesBarney 6y ago
      The same amount that is endangered for a parade, a presidential motorcade, or road construction.
      - dbsmith83 6y ago
        That is a terrible analogy. The key difference is that parades, motorcades, and road construction are planned events. Protesters who unexpectedly stop traffic do not give people opportunity to plan. side comment: Loving the downvotes for a legitimate point. When did hacker news turn into reddit?
        JamesBarney 6y ago
        If you need to get to a hospital they all slow you down, doesn't matter how planned the event is.
rlt 6y ago
Not an ambulance, but the fire department was (allegedly) blocked from reaching an occupied burning building in Richmond (VA) yesterday: https://youtu.be/AEncQKV8k_0?t=205 https://youtu.be/AEncQKV8k_0?t=205
Natsu 6y ago
When a Trump rally was protested back around 2016 in Phoenix, an ambulance was blocked.

I have never in my life seen an ambulance be stopped by a protest, nor have ever heard of such an incident ever occuring.

by jascii 6y ago

I have never in my life seen an ambulance be stopped by a protest, nor have ever heard of such an incident ever occuring.

drocer88 6y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfyI69IQSg

marcusverus 6y ago

Not a protest, but this exact thing occurred during the Fort Lee Lane closure scandal, when people intentionally created road closures in New Jersey. This was national news for awhile [0] Also, a lack of media coverage for a thing doesn't mean it doesn't happen, nor does rampant media coverage mean a thing is common. Remember the summer of the shark? [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lee_lane_closure_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lee_lane_closure_scandal [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_the_Shark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_the_Shark

gdubs 6y ago
It’s a lot harder for cars stuck on a bridge to move out of the way than it is for a crowd of people though, right?
- Thorrez 6y ago
  If there's an ambulance stuck, it might be stuck behind a bunch of cars that can't move.

ABeeSea 6y ago

The armed right-wing lockdown protestors blocked an ambulance. And a right-wing governor threw a tantrum that blocked ambulances.

testbot123 6y ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted. There is documented evidence of this: > "To see this - traffic blocking the main intersection of a level 1 trauma centre, blocking the entrance and exit to our hospital. Blocking patients from receiving care that they need, makes me angry. It hurts. It hurts a lot," said one healthcare worker on Facebook. > WLNS reports another posting: "You are currently blocking ambulances, physicians and caregivers from making it to work to care for the sick and relieve the exhausted workers. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/operation-gridlock-lansing-michigan-protest-ambulance-gretchen-whitmer-social-distancing-coronavirus-a9468756.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... Quotes a local news story: https://www.wlns.com/news/health/coronavirus/capitol-protesters-snarl-streets-including-sparrow-hospital-area/ https://www.wlns.com/news/health/coronavirus/capitol-protest...
- grandmczeb 6y ago
  That first story is repeating a (false) rumor. Even the second story you posted directly contradicts it. > Sparrow spokesperson John Foren said there are no access problems and ambulances can “get in and out. There’s no problem.” https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/21/police-rebut-whitmer-claims-ambulances-blocked-protest-traffic/5169518002/ https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/0...
  - testbot123 6y ago
    You're correct, I apologize.

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dbsmith83 6y ago

There are a lot of people out there who have important things that have to do with their health. Just because someone is not in an ambulance doesn't mean they don't have somewhere important to be. Not everyone with a medical condition rides in an ambulance.

JamesBarney 6y ago
But the vast majority of medical conditions where routing around a protest or road closure would cause serious harm to an individual are probably in ambulances.
- dbsmith83 6y ago
  Not really sure what your point is regarding 'vast majority'. How many people's lives are acceptable to endanger? Just today, an interstate was shut down unexpectedly because of protesters. What about everyone who was trapped on that highway and could not move, let alone reroute?
  - JamesBarney 6y ago
    The same amount that is endangered for a parade, a presidential motorcade, or road construction.
    - dbsmith83 6y ago
      That is a terrible analogy. The key difference is that parades, motorcades, and road construction are planned events. Protesters who unexpectedly stop traffic do not give people opportunity to plan. side comment: Loving the downvotes for a legitimate point. When did hacker news turn into reddit?
      - JamesBarney 6y ago
        If you need to get to a hospital they all slow you down, doesn't matter how planned the event is.

rlt 6y ago

Not an ambulance, but the fire department was (allegedly) blocked from reaching an occupied burning building in Richmond (VA) yesterday: https://youtu.be/AEncQKV8k_0?t=205 https://youtu.be/AEncQKV8k_0?t=205

Natsu 6y ago

When a Trump rally was protested back around 2016 in Phoenix, an ambulance was blocked.