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Use Mozilla's homeserver instead. A far better experience, presumably because it runs on New Vector's modular.im infra. Supports SSO (can even sign in with your

Use Mozilla's homeserver instead. A far better experience, presumably because it runs on New Vector's modular.im infra. Supports SSO (can even sign in with your Firefox account).

StavrosK 6y ago
Will that fix things? Apparently, when I tried to DM my friend and invited him to a DM, the room should have been his username but was "empty room" instead.
- emptysongglass 6y ago
  It may. Riot can be a bit of a pain to get the initial handshake going. If all else fails just keep blowing up the room and retrying until it sticks. I've had to do that before with members of my team.
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    I see, thanks. I tried with another friend, I keep trying to verify him but I keep seeing a spinner "waiting for him" and he sees nothing. I'm going to give Matrix a few more years to mature and try again then, I think.
    - Arathorn 6y ago
      We're not aware of any performance problems on the matrix.org server right now (we had a breakthrough in performance last week), so I think something else is going wrong. What clients were you using?
      - StavrosK 6y ago
        I was using web and he was using the android client. Things started working when he switched to web too.
        Arathorn 6y ago
        precisely which android client was he using? (and can he submit a bug report from it?) My guess is that you were trying to do new-style verification, which requires RiotX, which is shortly going to replace the old Riot Android client.
        StavrosK 6y ago
        I think he was using the old client, yes. I will ask him to file a report, I tried RiotX and it seems to work well.
    - WhatIsDukkha 6y ago
      It's really not that bad or I certainly wouldn't be using it. The matrix home server has horrible lag spikes at some times of the day. The e2e implementation was pretty miserable until a few weeks ago but is now pretty smooth sailing. Been using it for 3-4 years and quite happy.
      - Arathorn 6y ago
        As of last week the matrix.org homeserver should no longer be laggy, as per https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 fwiw :)
        WhatIsDukkha 6y ago
        It has seemed much better but anecdotally I was just about to talk to my friend about how much better Matrix had been in the last few weeks and.... Unusuable between 14:20 and 14:28pst today :) Is there a public ops page for those perf numbers? -thanks for fixing e2e, cross signing was huge improvement
        Arathorn 6y ago
        hm, weird - not seeing anything around 14:20 on the graphs. might be network connectivity or something else going wrong, but not an overloaded synapse for once. status.matrix.org exists but is fairly useless - we need to publish the graphs publicly.
  - viraptor 6y ago
    Are those new issues due to P2P? I've been using riot for some time last year and everything seemed to "just work". Was I lucky, or did it get worse?
    - Arathorn 6y ago
      P2P is an entirely separate codebase & deployment. The issues here sound like a bug in the legacy Riot/Android app which is about to be replaced by RiotX. In general things have been getting progressively better.

Use Mozilla's homeserver instead. A far better experience, presumably because it runs on New Vector's modular.im infra. Supports SSO (can even sign in with your Firefox account).

StavrosK 6y ago

Will that fix things? Apparently, when I tried to DM my friend and invited him to a DM, the room should have been his username but was "empty room" instead.

emptysongglass 6y ago
It may. Riot can be a bit of a pain to get the initial handshake going. If all else fails just keep blowing up the room and retrying until it sticks. I've had to do that before with members of my team.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  I see, thanks. I tried with another friend, I keep trying to verify him but I keep seeing a spinner "waiting for him" and he sees nothing. I'm going to give Matrix a few more years to mature and try again then, I think.
  - Arathorn 6y ago
    We're not aware of any performance problems on the matrix.org server right now (we had a breakthrough in performance last week), so I think something else is going wrong. What clients were you using?
    - StavrosK 6y ago
      I was using web and he was using the android client. Things started working when he switched to web too.
      - Arathorn 6y ago
        precisely which android client was he using? (and can he submit a bug report from it?) My guess is that you were trying to do new-style verification, which requires RiotX, which is shortly going to replace the old Riot Android client.
        StavrosK 6y ago
        I think he was using the old client, yes. I will ask him to file a report, I tried RiotX and it seems to work well.
  - WhatIsDukkha 6y ago
    It's really not that bad or I certainly wouldn't be using it. The matrix home server has horrible lag spikes at some times of the day. The e2e implementation was pretty miserable until a few weeks ago but is now pretty smooth sailing. Been using it for 3-4 years and quite happy.
    - Arathorn 6y ago
      As of last week the matrix.org homeserver should no longer be laggy, as per https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 fwiw :)
      - WhatIsDukkha 6y ago
        It has seemed much better but anecdotally I was just about to talk to my friend about how much better Matrix had been in the last few weeks and.... Unusuable between 14:20 and 14:28pst today :) Is there a public ops page for those perf numbers? -thanks for fixing e2e, cross signing was huge improvement
        Arathorn 6y ago
        hm, weird - not seeing anything around 14:20 on the graphs. might be network connectivity or something else going wrong, but not an overloaded synapse for once. status.matrix.org exists but is fairly useless - we need to publish the graphs publicly.
- viraptor 6y ago
  Are those new issues due to P2P? I've been using riot for some time last year and everything seemed to "just work". Was I lucky, or did it get worse?
  - Arathorn 6y ago
    P2P is an entirely separate codebase & deployment. The issues here sound like a bug in the legacy Riot/Android app which is about to be replaced by RiotX. In general things have been getting progressively better.