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You don't lose any messages with downtime if others in the group are on different home servers

by ajayyy 6y ago

StavrosK 6y ago
That sounds great, thanks. Unfortunately I just tried to use Riot.im on the default server to talk to a friend (also on the default server), and my messages aren't getting to him or his to me, so it looks like Matrix still has some way to go.
- emptysongglass 6y ago
  Use Mozilla's homeserver instead. A far better experience, presumably because it runs on New Vector's modular.im infra. Supports SSO (can even sign in with your Firefox account).
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    Will that fix things? Apparently, when I tried to DM my friend and invited him to a DM, the room should have been his username but was "empty room" instead.
    - emptysongglass 6y ago
      It may. Riot can be a bit of a pain to get the initial handshake going. If all else fails just keep blowing up the room and retrying until it sticks. I've had to do that before with members of my team.
      - StavrosK 6y ago
        I see, thanks. I tried with another friend, I keep trying to verify him but I keep seeing a spinner "waiting for him" and he sees nothing. I'm going to give Matrix a few more years to mature and try again then, I think.
        Arathorn 6y ago
        We're not aware of any performance problems on the matrix.org server right now (we had a breakthrough in performance last week), so I think something else is going wrong. What clients were you using?
        StavrosK 6y ago
        I was using web and he was using the android client. Things started working when he switched to web too.
        Arathorn 6y ago
        precisely which android client was he using? (and can he submit a bug report from it?) My guess is that you were trying to do new-style verification, which requires RiotX, which is shortly going to replace the old Riot Android client.
        StavrosK 6y ago
        I think he was using the old client, yes. I will ask him to file a report, I tried RiotX and it seems to work well.
        WhatIsDukkha 6y ago
        It's really not that bad or I certainly wouldn't be using it. The matrix home server has horrible lag spikes at some times of the day. The e2e implementation was pretty miserable until a few weeks ago but is now pretty smooth sailing. Been using it for 3-4 years and quite happy.
        Arathorn 6y ago
        As of last week the matrix.org homeserver should no longer be laggy, as per https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 fwiw :)
      - viraptor 6y ago
        Are those new issues due to P2P? I've been using riot for some time last year and everything seemed to "just work". Was I lucky, or did it get worse?
        Arathorn 6y ago
        P2P is an entirely separate codebase & deployment. The issues here sound like a bug in the legacy Riot/Android app which is about to be replaced by RiotX. In general things have been getting progressively better.

You don't lose any messages with downtime if others in the group are on different home servers

by ajayyy 6y ago

You don't lose any messages with downtime if others in the group are on different home servers

That sounds great, thanks. Unfortunately I just tried to use Riot.im on the default server to talk to a friend (also on the default server), and my messages aren't getting to him or his to me, so it looks like Matrix still has some way to go.

emptysongglass 6y ago
Use Mozilla's homeserver instead. A far better experience, presumably because it runs on New Vector's modular.im infra. Supports SSO (can even sign in with your Firefox account).
- StavrosK 6y ago
  Will that fix things? Apparently, when I tried to DM my friend and invited him to a DM, the room should have been his username but was "empty room" instead.
  - emptysongglass 6y ago
    It may. Riot can be a bit of a pain to get the initial handshake going. If all else fails just keep blowing up the room and retrying until it sticks. I've had to do that before with members of my team.
    - StavrosK 6y ago
      I see, thanks. I tried with another friend, I keep trying to verify him but I keep seeing a spinner "waiting for him" and he sees nothing. I'm going to give Matrix a few more years to mature and try again then, I think.
      - Arathorn 6y ago
        We're not aware of any performance problems on the matrix.org server right now (we had a breakthrough in performance last week), so I think something else is going wrong. What clients were you using?
        StavrosK 6y ago
        I was using web and he was using the android client. Things started working when he switched to web too.
        Arathorn 6y ago
        precisely which android client was he using? (and can he submit a bug report from it?) My guess is that you were trying to do new-style verification, which requires RiotX, which is shortly going to replace the old Riot Android client.
        StavrosK 6y ago
        I think he was using the old client, yes. I will ask him to file a report, I tried RiotX and it seems to work well.
      - WhatIsDukkha 6y ago
        It's really not that bad or I certainly wouldn't be using it. The matrix home server has horrible lag spikes at some times of the day. The e2e implementation was pretty miserable until a few weeks ago but is now pretty smooth sailing. Been using it for 3-4 years and quite happy.
        Arathorn 6y ago
        As of last week the matrix.org homeserver should no longer be laggy, as per https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1265412147737223174 fwiw :)
    - viraptor 6y ago
      Are those new issues due to P2P? I've been using riot for some time last year and everything seemed to "just work". Was I lucky, or did it get worse?
      - Arathorn 6y ago
        P2P is an entirely separate codebase & deployment. The issues here sound like a bug in the legacy Riot/Android app which is about to be replaced by RiotX. In general things have been getting progressively better.