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> Your local police department...can help point you to some Sorry if I wasn't clear, but to put it lightly, I do not plan on asking the police for suggestions.
by _hplx 6y ago
> Your local police department...can help point you to some
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but to put it lightly, I do not plan on asking the police for suggestions.
That said I think the rest of the ideas are valid.
> Data can be a positive tool to keep everyone
I agree, but data solutions are tricky because there's so much misinformation going on right now. It's really easy for data to be fabricated (other than video (kind of)), and even if it's not, people would (rightly) be cautious to trust it. Data validation might be an interesting problem to tackle but I don't know how you solve that with tech.
- aaron695 6y ago> Sorry if I wasn't clear, but to put it lightly, I do not plan on asking the police for suggestions. It's still not clear what you want. You want to protest in the USA about George Floyd (so not current events or a broader helping) and treat all the police as adversarials?
- _hplx 6y agoI was trying to be diplomatic. It's my belief that the police have decided to make themselves adversarials of virtually everyone else.
- aaron695 6y agoI'd suggest currently society is very partisan so to make a difference try not to be, it would make you left handed batter . A lot of police are black, are mother's, live in small communities so to many of us your view their structure can't be changed is very strange so you need to state it. Theres a good theory de-militarization of the police short and long term would de-escalate the protests. You could collate what's on the streets perhaps and look at local laws and procurements. But I don't know if you even want that? Do you want the protests to slow down?
- brundolf 6y agoI want people who abuse power to be held accountable for it. I want people who are peacefully protesting to be protected against violence that has often been incited upon them by law enforcement. If I could make all of the protests peaceful then I would. But I would also amplify their message, if I could. I know this is all very vague, which is why I solicited ideas for concrete steps.
- austincheney 6y ago> I do not plan on asking the police for suggestions. If you want this to work be up front about your intentions, partiality, and biases; or else you are just contributing to that misinformation you spoke of and that’s all people will see (even if/when they agree with you). > I agree, but data solutions are tricky because there's so much misinformation going on right now. Limit your data to reliable sources.
- _hplx 6y agoIt's an enormous stretch to call delicate speech about my personal convictions "misinformation". Anyway, my only intent is to help people, not add to the conflict. It's just that I believe the police have dropped all pretense of sharing that goal of helping people.
- austincheney 6y agoNot at all, and that’s not how other people will see it. It all comes down to intention and objectivity. Misinformation is the resultant product of people putting their personal opinions ahead of ethics and evidence regardless of what those opinions are.
- _hplx 6y agoI have no interest in sowing misinformation to support my beliefs, if that's what you're worried about. Otherwise I still don't really understand your point.
- austincheney 6y agoI don’t doubt that your goals are noble, but a lot (most) of misinformation is from well intentioned people positing their biases over objectivity. You will be contributing to misinformation if your goal is to induce a personal bias and you wish to suppress disclosure of your goals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(science) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(science)
- austincheney 6y agoOn a completely unrelated matter how were you able to reassign your comments to a different username? I did not realize HN allowed that.