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> That looks very suspicious, but if this were really a widespread technique by the police Giving your comment the benefit of the doubt, that does not address

> That looks very suspicious, but if this were really a widespread technique by the police Giving your comment the benefit of the doubt, that does not address the fact that a while platoon of police officers witnessed a fellow police officer vandalize public property without any reason or justification, and they didn't even flinched or complained or even frowned upon that brand of unprovoked abuse. That's pretty much one of the central points of the whole protest.

slg 6y ago
> they didn't even flinched or complained or even frowned upon that brand of unprovoked abuse I have seen dozens if not over a hundred videos of the police acting inappropriately over the last few days. I have only seen a single video in which any of them were stopped or reprimanded by another cop and that one "good cop" was a woman of color. If this inappropriate behavior is done by such a small percentage of the police force and is frowned on by all the other good cops, why is there so little evidence of police policing themselves?
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  Have you seen dozens or hundreds of videos of civilians acting inappropriately? If a “woman of color” was seen starting a fire, would you be comfortable saying things like “black women start fires”? I sure hope not. Even if you had dozens of examples, it would still be wrong to make such a statement.
  - slg 6y ago
    >Have you seen dozens or hundreds of videos of civilians acting inappropriately? Yes. I have also seen countless videos in which civilians were reprimanded by other citizens for acting inappropriately. They are trying to police themselves. Why can't the police police themselves? >If a “woman of color” was seen starting a fire, would you be comfortable saying things like “black women start fires”? I sure hope not. Even if you had dozens of examples, it would still be wrong to make such a statement. I don't know what you are trying to insinuate with this comment. I was not making any blanket statements about anyone beyond the general group of "police".
    - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
      I was not making any blanket statements about anyone beyond the general group of "police". Yes, that was the point. Blanket statements don’t work in either case.
      - slg 6y ago
        Joining the police is a choice. Being a woman of color is not a choice. Making a blanket statement about those two groups is therefore entirely different. My blanket statement about police was also framed as a question. I said I have seen very little evidence I was wrong. If you think I am wrong, you could try providing an answer to that question rather than attacking the question itself.
      - ashtonkem 6y ago
        Means of employment and racial characteristics are not the same thing. Only one is voluntary.
- thatguy0900 6y ago
  The video of George that started all this has 4 cops in it. The 3 cops that allowed him to kneel on georg's neck for 7 minutes are not being charged with anything at all. The one female cop even remarks that George should be moved to be on his side, then when she's ignored, doesn't bring it up again. Why should they police each other when nothing happens when they dont
  - selimthegrim 6y ago
    I thought they were all males and it was the rookie that said it
lawnchair_larry 6y ago
If it were me, and I had a first hand account of what he did and whether he had a justifiable reason, I would have it documented and escalated after returning to the office, hopefully anonymously, or at least confidentially. I would also keep an eye on that officer to see if there were more violations. I would not break formation and try to handcuff another officer in the moment, because it would be strategically unwise.
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
  > If it were me Right. Maybe that's why you aren't a police officer. > I would not break formation and try to handcuff another officer in the moment Maybe you should be a police officer. > because it would be strategically unwise Things need to change now. When the police can demonstrate they are able to rein each other in, we can all go home and celebrate.
  - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
    Way to not read the post. You’re perhaps being a little naive. There is more than one way to accomplish things, and your way is not the most effective way.

slg 6y ago

> they didn't even flinched or complained or even frowned upon that brand of unprovoked abuse I have seen dozens if not over a hundred videos of the police acting inappropriately over the last few days. I have only seen a single video in which any of them were stopped or reprimanded by another cop and that one "good cop" was a woman of color. If this inappropriate behavior is done by such a small percentage of the police force and is frowned on by all the other good cops, why is there so little evidence of police policing themselves?

lawnchair_larry 6y ago
Have you seen dozens or hundreds of videos of civilians acting inappropriately? If a “woman of color” was seen starting a fire, would you be comfortable saying things like “black women start fires”? I sure hope not. Even if you had dozens of examples, it would still be wrong to make such a statement.
- slg 6y ago
  >Have you seen dozens or hundreds of videos of civilians acting inappropriately? Yes. I have also seen countless videos in which civilians were reprimanded by other citizens for acting inappropriately. They are trying to police themselves. Why can't the police police themselves? >If a “woman of color” was seen starting a fire, would you be comfortable saying things like “black women start fires”? I sure hope not. Even if you had dozens of examples, it would still be wrong to make such a statement. I don't know what you are trying to insinuate with this comment. I was not making any blanket statements about anyone beyond the general group of "police".
  - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
    I was not making any blanket statements about anyone beyond the general group of "police". Yes, that was the point. Blanket statements don’t work in either case.
    - slg 6y ago
      Joining the police is a choice. Being a woman of color is not a choice. Making a blanket statement about those two groups is therefore entirely different. My blanket statement about police was also framed as a question. I said I have seen very little evidence I was wrong. If you think I am wrong, you could try providing an answer to that question rather than attacking the question itself.
    - ashtonkem 6y ago
      Means of employment and racial characteristics are not the same thing. Only one is voluntary.
thatguy0900 6y ago
The video of George that started all this has 4 cops in it. The 3 cops that allowed him to kneel on georg's neck for 7 minutes are not being charged with anything at all. The one female cop even remarks that George should be moved to be on his side, then when she's ignored, doesn't bring it up again. Why should they police each other when nothing happens when they dont
- selimthegrim 6y ago
  I thought they were all males and it was the rookie that said it

lawnchair_larry 6y ago

If it were me, and I had a first hand account of what he did and whether he had a justifiable reason, I would have it documented and escalated after returning to the office, hopefully anonymously, or at least confidentially. I would also keep an eye on that officer to see if there were more violations. I would not break formation and try to handcuff another officer in the moment, because it would be strategically unwise.

TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
> If it were me Right. Maybe that's why you aren't a police officer. > I would not break formation and try to handcuff another officer in the moment Maybe you should be a police officer. > because it would be strategically unwise Things need to change now. When the police can demonstrate they are able to rein each other in, we can all go home and celebrate.
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  Way to not read the post. You’re perhaps being a little naive. There is more than one way to accomplish things, and your way is not the most effective way.