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Look at this from anither angle: on MacOS it is worse. You can "buy" certificates/approval only from Apple. If Apple doesn't like you, you are screwed!

duskwuff 6y ago
OTOH: On macOS, you pay $100/yr and you're set -- any apps you notarize will launch with a simple confirmation dialog. On Windows, you can spend hundreds of dollars on a security certificate and still get blocked by SmartScreen and/or antivirus software. I'm not aware of any situations where Apple has declined to offer a developer certificate to a developer, outside of situations where they are legally barred from doing so (e.g, for developers in countries subject to US economic sanctions, who would probably be unable to obtain a software signing certificate either).
- thefounder 6y ago
  >> On Windows, you can spend hundreds of dollars on a security certificate and still get blocked by SmartScreen and/or antivirus software. You are wrong. As described in the OP if you buy EV certificate($70) [0] you are all set. >> I'm not aware of any situations where Apple has declined to offer a developer certificate I can see that. Still there are such cases. Monopoly on the approval process is bad anyway. Even if acting in good faith, mistakes happen. [0] https://www.ssl2buy.com/comodo-positivessl-ev.php https://www.ssl2buy.com/comodo-positivessl-ev.php
  - donmcronald 6y ago
    That’s an SSL certificate. Anyone who pays for that is dumb. Anyone that tries to use it for code signing is dumber.
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    - thefounder 6y ago
      Sorry for the wrong link. Below is the correct one to an EV Code Signing Certificate offer. For the dumb people who can't find a better price it's just $300. Enjoy! https://comodosslstore.com/code-signing/comodo-ev-code-signing-certificate https://comodosslstore.com/code-signing/comodo-ev-code-signi...
  - duskwuff 6y ago
    > You are wrong. As described in the OP if you buy EV certificate($70) [0] you are all set. That's an EV SSL certificate, not an EV code signing certificate, which costs significantly more and still doesn't prevent an application from being blocked by antivirus software.
    - thefounder 6y ago
      "Extended Validation Code Signing Certificate. Signing code with one of these will automatically bypass SmartScreen." Code signing certificate is indeed more expensive(i.e around $300). Still I would rather pay more than having a single provider(Apple)

duskwuff 6y ago

OTOH: On macOS, you pay $100/yr and you're set -- any apps you notarize will launch with a simple confirmation dialog. On Windows, you can spend hundreds of dollars on a security certificate and still get blocked by SmartScreen and/or antivirus software. I'm not aware of any situations where Apple has declined to offer a developer certificate to a developer, outside of situations where they are legally barred from doing so (e.g, for developers in countries subject to US economic sanctions, who would probably be unable to obtain a software signing certificate either).

thefounder 6y ago
>> On Windows, you can spend hundreds of dollars on a security certificate and still get blocked by SmartScreen and/or antivirus software. You are wrong. As described in the OP if you buy EV certificate($70) [0] you are all set. >> I'm not aware of any situations where Apple has declined to offer a developer certificate I can see that. Still there are such cases. Monopoly on the approval process is bad anyway. Even if acting in good faith, mistakes happen. [0] https://www.ssl2buy.com/comodo-positivessl-ev.php https://www.ssl2buy.com/comodo-positivessl-ev.php
- donmcronald 6y ago
  That’s an SSL certificate. Anyone who pays for that is dumb. Anyone that tries to use it for code signing is dumber.
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  - thefounder 6y ago
    Sorry for the wrong link. Below is the correct one to an EV Code Signing Certificate offer. For the dumb people who can't find a better price it's just $300. Enjoy! https://comodosslstore.com/code-signing/comodo-ev-code-signing-certificate https://comodosslstore.com/code-signing/comodo-ev-code-signi...
- duskwuff 6y ago
  > You are wrong. As described in the OP if you buy EV certificate($70) [0] you are all set. That's an EV SSL certificate, not an EV code signing certificate, which costs significantly more and still doesn't prevent an application from being blocked by antivirus software.
  - thefounder 6y ago
    "Extended Validation Code Signing Certificate. Signing code with one of these will automatically bypass SmartScreen." Code signing certificate is indeed more expensive(i.e around $300). Still I would rather pay more than having a single provider(Apple)