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Most news isn’t that, just cable news.

exclusiv 6y ago
Where can you find credible, unbiased news coverage? I've started watching foreign news coverage of the US. It seems better, but I can't yet tell how much; all news still love the sensational stuff.
- Pfhreak 6y ago
  There's no such thing as unbiased news coverage. Any news outlet has more stories to report than they have capacity to report. They must exhibit some bias to control for what they show. (Or, alternatively, I guess they could just randomly select news stories, but I don't think that'd be very compelling.)
  - fastball 6y ago
    Or they could only write about things they have thoroughly researched, not try to write about every event that happens, many of which they are just regurgitating from another source without any additional fact-checking or analysis anyway.
    - macintux 6y ago
      Research, and presenting context for the news item, always means interpretation, and that leads to accusation of bias.
    - Pfhreak 6y ago
      Ok, how do you select the things to research without bias?
- chasd00 6y ago
  what i try to do is read the story from two sources that hate each other and try to take an average. Stay away from opinion and "analysis" pieces period.
ravenstine 6y ago
It's interesting you say that, because most people feel one way or the other. In my personal experience, even most written news is junk. It just seems like it's not junk because it uses intellectual language and doesn't feature a man in a suit speaking loudly. All news leaves out key details and editorializes. But some people don't see it this way, and it's scary that we are this fractured because it's hard to reconcile. If two people are reading the news and come to dipolar conclusions, how do they come to an agreement? For the sake of argument, let's say that one perspective on the news is accurate, and the other is inaccurate; the chances that the more correct person will be able to persuade the person with the less accurate view seems close to nil.
fastball 6y ago
Most news is definitely not "journalism" either.
- viraptor 6y ago
  That's a big distinction I think. Also looking at who provides cheap and easy summaries vs raw information / deep investigation helps. Right now even if Unicorn riot is likely biased in many ways, I'll take them actually standing in the crowd doing a live stream for days than another source: https://unicornriot.ninja/ https://unicornriot.ninja/

Where can you find credible, unbiased news coverage? I've started watching foreign news coverage of the US. It seems better, but I can't yet tell how much; all news still love the sensational stuff.

Pfhreak 6y ago
There's no such thing as unbiased news coverage. Any news outlet has more stories to report than they have capacity to report. They must exhibit some bias to control for what they show. (Or, alternatively, I guess they could just randomly select news stories, but I don't think that'd be very compelling.)
- fastball 6y ago
  Or they could only write about things they have thoroughly researched, not try to write about every event that happens, many of which they are just regurgitating from another source without any additional fact-checking or analysis anyway.
  - macintux 6y ago
    Research, and presenting context for the news item, always means interpretation, and that leads to accusation of bias.
  - Pfhreak 6y ago
    Ok, how do you select the things to research without bias?
chasd00 6y ago
what i try to do is read the story from two sources that hate each other and try to take an average. Stay away from opinion and "analysis" pieces period.

ravenstine 6y ago

It's interesting you say that, because most people feel one way or the other. In my personal experience, even most written news is junk. It just seems like it's not junk because it uses intellectual language and doesn't feature a man in a suit speaking loudly. All news leaves out key details and editorializes. But some people don't see it this way, and it's scary that we are this fractured because it's hard to reconcile. If two people are reading the news and come to dipolar conclusions, how do they come to an agreement? For the sake of argument, let's say that one perspective on the news is accurate, and the other is inaccurate; the chances that the more correct person will be able to persuade the person with the less accurate view seems close to nil.

fastball 6y ago

Most news is definitely not "journalism" either.

viraptor 6y ago
That's a big distinction I think. Also looking at who provides cheap and easy summaries vs raw information / deep investigation helps. Right now even if Unicorn riot is likely biased in many ways, I'll take them actually standing in the crowd doing a live stream for days than another source: https://unicornriot.ninja/ https://unicornriot.ninja/