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There is plenty of video footage of journalists being directly targeted and attacked by the police.

by throwaway2048 6y ago

lostmsu 6y ago
Intentionally picked up from the crowd?
- watwut 6y ago
  Either that or standing a bit away from crowd filming.
  - lostmsu 6y ago
    Objective data? Video? Even an account from journalists?
    - xedeon 6y ago
      Plenty of videos on Twitter. These are just a few couple out of many: https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1267449066947932163?s=20 https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1267449066947932163?s... https://twitter.com/JordonLee/status/1267600319522971649?s=20 https://twitter.com/JordonLee/status/1267600319522971649?s=2...
    - watwut 6y ago
      You asked where they were located. I answered.
      - lostmsu 6y ago
        You replied to the question if they were intentionally picked from the crowd for being journalists. Not where they were located.
        watwut 6y ago
        And some were in the crowd and others were apart of crowd. No, they were not randomly stumbled upon nor are these cases of being randomly hit while police attacks indiscriminately. Through such cases exists too.
- xedeon 6y ago
  OUR LATEST DATA: 192 total press freedom violations —31+ arrests —131 assaults (108 by police, 23 by others) —30 equipment or newsroom damage. Assault category breakdown: 45 physical attacks (30 by police) 30 tear gassings 17 pepper sprayings 46 rubber bullet/projectiles https://twitter.com/uspresstracker/status/1267878024365723650?s=20 https://twitter.com/uspresstracker/status/126787802436572365...
  - lostmsu 6y ago
    Nothing here shows intent to apprehend specifically journalists. Wikipedia shows >5,000 arrests overall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests. Which I bet means journalists were arrested way less, than an average protesting folk.
    - bigfudge 6y ago
      Are you suggesting > .6% (31/5000) of the protesters were journalists? That seems implausible.
      - lostmsu 6y ago
        I've been to quite a few (admittedly smaller) protests, where the ratio was 1:2. So yes, 0.6% sounds like a small number.
- klyrs 6y ago
  Intentionally picked up from a position that police told them was okay to take. Offered to move for a subsequent officer who confronted them, and were arrested for resisting arrest. Don't take my word for it, cameras were rolling the whole time. Governor acknowledges that this was improper. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/29/cnn-reporters-covering-minnesota-riots-arrested-live-on-air-288575 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/29/cnn-reporters-cover... Another case where a reporter shows his credentials and gets arrested anyway. Attorney General acknowledges that the action was improper. https://www.app.com/story/news/local/how-we-live/2020/06/01/app-reporter-apparently-arrested-asbury-park-george-floyd-protest/5314750002/ https://www.app.com/story/news/local/how-we-live/2020/06/01/...
  - lostmsu 6y ago
    The first one is concerning, but the incident appears to be resolved now (?). The second one does not seem like a major problem to me, as the police might not know a random filming guy showing some piece of paper to be an actual reporter, rather than just a friend of the rioters filming their action for YouTube. It seems it also was resolved. Unless there's an easy way for police to make a credible determination if the media badge is valid, I would count it as an honest mistake with no major consequences. Again, this does not support the implication of the title, that police picked journalists intentionally, and more supports my point that journalists were caught in the process.
    - xedeon 6y ago
      Even after identifying themselves with their press credentials? Come on.
      - lostmsu 6y ago
        The comment you are replying to addresses this: > Unless there's an easy way for police to make a credible determination if the media badge is valid, I would count it as an honest mistake with no major consequences.
    - klyrs 6y ago

There is plenty of video footage of journalists being directly targeted and attacked by the police.

lostmsu 6y ago

Intentionally picked up from the crowd?

watwut 6y ago
Either that or standing a bit away from crowd filming.
- lostmsu 6y ago
  Objective data? Video? Even an account from journalists?
  - xedeon 6y ago
    Plenty of videos on Twitter. These are just a few couple out of many: https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1267449066947932163?s=20 https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1267449066947932163?s... https://twitter.com/JordonLee/status/1267600319522971649?s=20 https://twitter.com/JordonLee/status/1267600319522971649?s=2...
  - watwut 6y ago
    You asked where they were located. I answered.
    - lostmsu 6y ago
      You replied to the question if they were intentionally picked from the crowd for being journalists. Not where they were located.
      - watwut 6y ago
        And some were in the crowd and others were apart of crowd. No, they were not randomly stumbled upon nor are these cases of being randomly hit while police attacks indiscriminately. Through such cases exists too.
xedeon 6y ago
OUR LATEST DATA: 192 total press freedom violations —31+ arrests —131 assaults (108 by police, 23 by others) —30 equipment or newsroom damage. Assault category breakdown: 45 physical attacks (30 by police) 30 tear gassings 17 pepper sprayings 46 rubber bullet/projectiles https://twitter.com/uspresstracker/status/1267878024365723650?s=20 https://twitter.com/uspresstracker/status/126787802436572365...
- lostmsu 6y ago
  Nothing here shows intent to apprehend specifically journalists. Wikipedia shows >5,000 arrests overall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests. Which I bet means journalists were arrested way less, than an average protesting folk.
  - bigfudge 6y ago
    Are you suggesting > .6% (31/5000) of the protesters were journalists? That seems implausible.
    - lostmsu 6y ago
      I've been to quite a few (admittedly smaller) protests, where the ratio was 1:2. So yes, 0.6% sounds like a small number.
klyrs 6y ago
Intentionally picked up from a position that police told them was okay to take. Offered to move for a subsequent officer who confronted them, and were arrested for resisting arrest. Don't take my word for it, cameras were rolling the whole time. Governor acknowledges that this was improper. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/29/cnn-reporters-covering-minnesota-riots-arrested-live-on-air-288575 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/29/cnn-reporters-cover... Another case where a reporter shows his credentials and gets arrested anyway. Attorney General acknowledges that the action was improper. https://www.app.com/story/news/local/how-we-live/2020/06/01/app-reporter-apparently-arrested-asbury-park-george-floyd-protest/5314750002/ https://www.app.com/story/news/local/how-we-live/2020/06/01/...
- lostmsu 6y ago
  The first one is concerning, but the incident appears to be resolved now (?). The second one does not seem like a major problem to me, as the police might not know a random filming guy showing some piece of paper to be an actual reporter, rather than just a friend of the rioters filming their action for YouTube. It seems it also was resolved. Unless there's an easy way for police to make a credible determination if the media badge is valid, I would count it as an honest mistake with no major consequences. Again, this does not support the implication of the title, that police picked journalists intentionally, and more supports my point that journalists were caught in the process.
  - xedeon 6y ago
    Even after identifying themselves with their press credentials? Come on.
    - lostmsu 6y ago
      The comment you are replying to addresses this: > Unless there's an easy way for police to make a credible determination if the media badge is valid, I would count it as an honest mistake with no major consequences.
  - klyrs 6y ago