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It doesn't matter. If the authors can't eat, they can't produce. You're still taking food from the author's mouth when you read an unauthorized copy. This hairs

It doesn't matter. If the authors can't eat, they can't produce. You're still taking food from the author's mouth when you read an unauthorized copy. This hairsplitting baloney about whether the word "theft" applies is a distraction.

kick 6y ago
Blaming the children in impoverished towns in places like Louisiana for "stealing" information over blaming the politicians who refuse after all this time to make authoring works sustainable or the system that enforces the same is ridiculous. I'm totally sure that twelve year old "stealing" bytes from LibGen over the wire in their rural town without a library worth its salt is just ripping that sandwich away from the author. Piracy doesn't harm sales, and actually improves them in certain cases: https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537 https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-... Tell me, though, how someone who can't afford books would be able to buy them in the first place? How are they taking food from the author's mouth? Complete and utter hogwash.
- xhkkffbf 6y ago
  Go ahead. Focus on the extreme outliers. 98% of America can afford to buy a book. I would guess that 90% of America spend more at Starbucks than they do at a bookstore. Yeah, that's their choice, but it proves they can afford it. Heck. Most of the panhandlers make enough in change in an hour to afford a Kindle Single. Please. Don't pretend to care for the small fraction of America that is in bad financial shape. You're just using them to justify your theft.
VonGuard 6y ago
What part of "opt-out" Do you not understand? Contact them, ask them to remove it, they will, on an author by author basis, rather than as a blanket publisher request that everything be removed.
- xhkkffbf 6y ago
  Tell ya what, I'm going to take your car. You can fill out some form on my web site to opt out. But if you don't, I'm going to feel free to just take your car. You and everyone else in the world have been warned. Fill out the form now or I'm going to feel completely legit when I take your car.
  - kick 6y ago
    Copying isn't stealing. If I made a perfect double of your car based on a picture of it, and you didn't lose your car, there is literally no way you can make that out to be bad. Your analogy falls flat on its face and chokes to death before it accomplishes anything.
    - xhkkffbf 6y ago
      No. As I said above, it doesn't matter whether the word is "stealing" or "blajeidmjdels". The authors can't eat if they aren't paid. Now fill out the form and opt out or I'm going to feel completely good about taking your car.
      - kick 6y ago
        Tell me, though, if the person doesn't take your car, doesn't take literally any asset from you, and just copies your car, how's that taking your car? Though I have to point out you seemingly ignored my other question, so I'm not sure how much good this one'll do.
        xhkkffbf 6y ago
        No. You're ignoring the reality that digital assets aren't like cars. Close to 100% of the cost of creating a book, movie or song lies in the creation not the duplication. If all of the audience copies it for free instead of buying it, the creator makes nothing. It has ZERO to do with whether the book store is deprived of the use of the copy. It has everything to do with whether the creation costs are split evenly amoungst the users. Here's an assignment for you: imagine writing a book or creating a movie. Now imagine that everyone pirates a digital version instead of paying you. Do you feel okay because no one deprived you of your original copy? Or are you depressed because everyone is using your work but not paying you what you asked?

kick 6y ago

Blaming the children in impoverished towns in places like Louisiana for "stealing" information over blaming the politicians who refuse after all this time to make authoring works sustainable or the system that enforces the same is ridiculous. I'm totally sure that twelve year old "stealing" bytes from LibGen over the wire in their rural town without a library worth its salt is just ripping that sandwich away from the author. Piracy doesn't harm sales, and actually improves them in certain cases: https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537 https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-... Tell me, though, how someone who can't afford books would be able to buy them in the first place? How are they taking food from the author's mouth? Complete and utter hogwash.

xhkkffbf 6y ago
Go ahead. Focus on the extreme outliers. 98% of America can afford to buy a book. I would guess that 90% of America spend more at Starbucks than they do at a bookstore. Yeah, that's their choice, but it proves they can afford it. Heck. Most of the panhandlers make enough in change in an hour to afford a Kindle Single. Please. Don't pretend to care for the small fraction of America that is in bad financial shape. You're just using them to justify your theft.

VonGuard 6y ago

What part of "opt-out" Do you not understand? Contact them, ask them to remove it, they will, on an author by author basis, rather than as a blanket publisher request that everything be removed.

xhkkffbf 6y ago
Tell ya what, I'm going to take your car. You can fill out some form on my web site to opt out. But if you don't, I'm going to feel free to just take your car. You and everyone else in the world have been warned. Fill out the form now or I'm going to feel completely legit when I take your car.
- kick 6y ago
  Copying isn't stealing. If I made a perfect double of your car based on a picture of it, and you didn't lose your car, there is literally no way you can make that out to be bad. Your analogy falls flat on its face and chokes to death before it accomplishes anything.
  - xhkkffbf 6y ago
    No. As I said above, it doesn't matter whether the word is "stealing" or "blajeidmjdels". The authors can't eat if they aren't paid. Now fill out the form and opt out or I'm going to feel completely good about taking your car.
    - kick 6y ago
      Tell me, though, if the person doesn't take your car, doesn't take literally any asset from you, and just copies your car, how's that taking your car? Though I have to point out you seemingly ignored my other question, so I'm not sure how much good this one'll do.
      - xhkkffbf 6y ago
        No. You're ignoring the reality that digital assets aren't like cars. Close to 100% of the cost of creating a book, movie or song lies in the creation not the duplication. If all of the audience copies it for free instead of buying it, the creator makes nothing. It has ZERO to do with whether the book store is deprived of the use of the copy. It has everything to do with whether the creation costs are split evenly amoungst the users. Here's an assignment for you: imagine writing a book or creating a movie. Now imagine that everyone pirates a digital version instead of paying you. Do you feel okay because no one deprived you of your original copy? Or are you depressed because everyone is using your work but not paying you what you asked?