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17 people were killed in Northern Ireland during the Troubles by "rubber bullets" so they are quite capable of killing people: https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues

17 people were killed in Northern Ireland during the Troubles by "rubber bullets" so they are quite capable of killing people: https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues/violence/rubberplasticbullet.htm https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues/violence/rubberplasticbulle...

boogies 6y ago
3 of those people are listed there as killed by rubber bullets, the other 14 as being killed by plastic ones.
- splitrocket 6y ago
  A distinction without a difference.
  - boogies 6y ago
    According to Wikipedia's separate article for plastic bullets, they were developed to be less lethal than rubber (no citations for it though). IMHO, this could teach a useful lesson, that even the ones intended to harm less can be made harmful to the point of deadliness. I think it depends on the (ab)user, even dihydrogen monoxide is deadly when abused. Just wanted to "[point] out some consideration that hadn't previously been mentioned" and "[give a tiny bit] more information about the topic" (https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.) :/
squarefoot 6y ago
Also, more than a thousand people were killed by Tasers in North America alone. This is an outdated (2017) list with names. https://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/ https://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/ Non-lethal my ass, I'd say.
- WrtCdEvrydy 6y ago
  They're usually sold as 'less lethal'
evan_ 6y ago
scores of people in Hong Kong have lost eyes to rubber bullets- a few American protesters have as well in the last few days
easytiger 6y ago
What do you think the appropriate civil order methodology alternative for attacking police officer's should be?
- itsgrimetime 6y ago
  Your statement is implying that the overuse of force is only in retaliation to attacking cops - have you not seen the dozens of videos over the last few days of people being shot at or gassed for protesting peacefully? Or being rammed into with cars?

boogies 6y ago

3 of those people are listed there as killed by rubber bullets, the other 14 as being killed by plastic ones.

splitrocket 6y ago
A distinction without a difference.
- boogies 6y ago
  According to Wikipedia's separate article for plastic bullets, they were developed to be less lethal than rubber (no citations for it though). IMHO, this could teach a useful lesson, that even the ones intended to harm less can be made harmful to the point of deadliness. I think it depends on the (ab)user, even dihydrogen monoxide is deadly when abused. Just wanted to "[point] out some consideration that hadn't previously been mentioned" and "[give a tiny bit] more information about the topic" (https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.) :/

squarefoot 6y ago

Also, more than a thousand people were killed by Tasers in North America alone. This is an outdated (2017) list with names. https://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/ https://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/ Non-lethal my ass, I'd say.

WrtCdEvrydy 6y ago
They're usually sold as 'less lethal'

evan_ 6y ago

scores of people in Hong Kong have lost eyes to rubber bullets- a few American protesters have as well in the last few days

easytiger 6y ago

What do you think the appropriate civil order methodology alternative for attacking police officer's should be?

itsgrimetime 6y ago
Your statement is implying that the overuse of force is only in retaliation to attacking cops - have you not seen the dozens of videos over the last few days of people being shot at or gassed for protesting peacefully? Or being rammed into with cars?