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If you did 1/2 of what the other cops did, you’d already be in jail pending trial. If you’d done 1/10th of that to a cop, you’d be lucky to survive your arrest.
by ashtonkem 6y ago
If you did 1/2 of what the other cops did, you’d already be in jail pending trial. If you’d done 1/10th of that to a cop, you’d be lucky to survive your arrest.
Part of the outrage is how blatantly unequal the treatment of cops and and civilians accused of crimes are. It’s especially galling because not only are they given the power of the state, they are also given extra rigorous training in the safe application of force. If anyone should have reasonably known that kneeling on someone’s neck would be lethal, it would be the cops.
Oh, and all the bystanders who clearly recognized what was going on. Apparently they’re more wise to the dangers of kneeling on a restrained human’s neck than the police are.
- 0xBA5ED 6y ago>If you did 1/2 of what the other cops did, you’d already be in jail pending trial. The difference is, police are authorized to use violence so there are other considerations about whether it was mistake or malice.
- ashtonkem 6y agoThey’re authorized to use necessary violence; kneeling on a handcuffed man’s neck was not a justifiable application of force. I genuinely cant believe I have to explain that.
- 0xBA5ED 6y agoThey all didn't kneel on the man's neck.
- ashtonkem 6y agoYes, that’s why I’m focusing on the word “accessory”. Don’t move the goal posts.
- 0xBA5ED 6y agoI haven't. This whole conversation has been about whether or not the other officers present should be arrested and charged as accessories to murder. I said it wasn't clear.
- ashtonkem 6y agoYou tried to change the standard to “all the officers didn’t kneel on his neck”, I just called you out on it. I do believe they should be arrested for accessory and face a trial by jury. It’s your right to think to the contrary, but your rationalizations about why they were willing to stand by and watch something that has deeply shocked the conscious of the whole nation is both disturbing and unconvincing.
- 0xBA5ED 6y ago"all the officers didn't kneel on his neck" doesn't "change the standard" whatever that means. It's well within what was being discussed. Anyway, I don't know why they were willing to do that. I'm not them. I don't know what they knew. That's the point. My OP was disputing the assertion that they knowingly stood there with the intent to allow their colleague to kill him and should be arrested on that basis, because it isn't clear.
- ashtonkem 6y ago“I don’t know why they were willing to do that”. That’s why we have trials by jury, to determine guilt even though we can’t read minds.