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Is Google censoring 'Falun Gong' voice typing?

55 points by sebastianconcpt 6y ago

crazypython 6y ago
Falun Gong is a religious movement banned by the Chinese Communist Party.
Villodre 6y ago
Well it’s no use arguing if they’re censoring it or not: it’s pretty obvious they are.
centimeter 6y ago
I noticed the other day that Apple has added some weird censorship terms to their swipe keyboard. They used to just censor “swear words” like “fuck”, but they seem to have added some additional phrases that I can’t come up with a charitable explanation for. For example, of the phrases “black man”, “black woman”, “white man”, “white woman”, you can only type “black man” on the swipe keyboard. If you try to swipe type one of the others, it will always change one of the two words to something else.
- bogwog 6y ago
  Wow I just tested that and you're right. That's a weirdly specific bug.
  - ta17711771 6y ago
    "Bug"
- vuln 6y ago
  Can confirm. Just tested on iOS 13.4.1. So weird.
- catalogia 6y ago
  Is this something do to with typing two words as though they were one word? If you swipe out the word 'black', and then swipe out the word 'woman', does that work?
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wrnr 6y ago
This need not be a directive set by google management, it could be individual speech annotators censoring the transcripts. I've worked with systems like this and remember a group of mormon house wifes not being font of curse words.
dbsmith83 6y ago
I wonder if anything else happens on the backend when a user attempts to say these banned words... While other nations are condemning China for their actions in Hong Kong, once again, we see Google developing solutions for authoritarian regimes under the guise of "complying with local laws". More like complying with authoritarianism. Instead of joining the world to put pressure on China, Google is enabling them. Pretty shameful, I think. This probably won't score any brownie points with the US government while they are being investigated (unless the gov't actually wants Google to do anything to get more integrated with China for intelligence reasons, which I could see as a possibility).
- dbsmith83 6y ago
  The reason I wonder about what is happening on the backend: https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/14/17861962/google-china-dragonfly-censorship-search-engine-phone-number-link-report https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/14/17861962/google-china-dra...
keccers 6y ago
For what it's worth — my Chinese-speaking friend tried this on his iPhone using voice dictation in Chinese. He was able to voice dictate 法轮功 — 'Falun Gong' in mainland (not traditional) Chinese with no problems.
- dbsmith83 6y ago
  But what country does your friend reside in?
  - keccers 6y ago
    United States.
bpolverini 6y ago
What if someone lives in Taiwan or the United States or Singapore or anywhere outside of the PRC? This is exactly the type of sociotechnical pressure the PRC wants to enforce over its diaspora.

crazypython 6y ago

Falun Gong is a religious movement banned by the Chinese Communist Party.

Villodre 6y ago

Well it’s no use arguing if they’re censoring it or not: it’s pretty obvious they are.

centimeter 6y ago

I noticed the other day that Apple has added some weird censorship terms to their swipe keyboard. They used to just censor “swear words” like “fuck”, but they seem to have added some additional phrases that I can’t come up with a charitable explanation for. For example, of the phrases “black man”, “black woman”, “white man”, “white woman”, you can only type “black man” on the swipe keyboard. If you try to swipe type one of the others, it will always change one of the two words to something else.

bogwog 6y ago
Wow I just tested that and you're right. That's a weirdly specific bug.
- ta17711771 6y ago
  "Bug"
vuln 6y ago
Can confirm. Just tested on iOS 13.4.1. So weird.
catalogia 6y ago
Is this something do to with typing two words as though they were one word? If you swipe out the word 'black', and then swipe out the word 'woman', does that work?

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wrnr 6y ago

This need not be a directive set by google management, it could be individual speech annotators censoring the transcripts. I've worked with systems like this and remember a group of mormon house wifes not being font of curse words.

dbsmith83 6y ago

I wonder if anything else happens on the backend when a user attempts to say these banned words... While other nations are condemning China for their actions in Hong Kong, once again, we see Google developing solutions for authoritarian regimes under the guise of "complying with local laws". More like complying with authoritarianism. Instead of joining the world to put pressure on China, Google is enabling them. Pretty shameful, I think. This probably won't score any brownie points with the US government while they are being investigated (unless the gov't actually wants Google to do anything to get more integrated with China for intelligence reasons, which I could see as a possibility).

dbsmith83 6y ago
The reason I wonder about what is happening on the backend: https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/14/17861962/google-china-dragonfly-censorship-search-engine-phone-number-link-report https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/14/17861962/google-china-dra...

keccers 6y ago

For what it's worth — my Chinese-speaking friend tried this on his iPhone using voice dictation in Chinese. He was able to voice dictate 法轮功 — 'Falun Gong' in mainland (not traditional) Chinese with no problems.

dbsmith83 6y ago
But what country does your friend reside in?
- keccers 6y ago
  United States.

bpolverini 6y ago

What if someone lives in Taiwan or the United States or Singapore or anywhere outside of the PRC? This is exactly the type of sociotechnical pressure the PRC wants to enforce over its diaspora.