4 ms·

> "We are going to cut your salary in half. You should move to a cheaper city to make up for it." To think that less than 4 months ago People were ridiculing

> "We are going to cut your salary in half. You should move to a cheaper city to make up for it." To think that less than 4 months ago People were ridiculing Andrew Yang and other proponents of UBI. I admit having it be, initially anyway, State sanctioned bothers me a great deal; but the fact is gainful employment is no longer a reliable aspect of modern Life for many in Society. This will continue to cut deeper and deeper, and for anyone not paying attention these protests and riots in the US have a much deeper sense of resentment than just Police Brutality against black males. And it's felt throughout the spectrum of underemployed, highly indebted underclass. Its like the bottled and pent up anger from the Occupy movement coming back. In many ways this reminds me of the London Riots of 2011, when London police killed a young black male named Mark Duggan [1] and it exposed a myriad of sociological, and socio-economic issues that quite frankly still remain to this day. 1: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/three-riot-lessons-from-londons-2011-experience https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/three-riot-lesson...

koolba 6y ago
Context matters. The current economic climate is in no way representative of normalcy as we just shut down a large chunk of it indefinitely. That aside, the idea that you can finance life in the highest cost living areas of the USA as a “stylist” (picking items for a clothing subscription) is lunacy. Clearly that work can be done anywhere and it’s only a matter of time till it’s pushed to the lowest cost areas. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cost of such labor goes to near zero as they attempt to start “paying” people with publicity instead.
- godzillabrennus 6y ago
  The job of a stylist will largely be automated away with AI. There will be a few needed to keep training the machines but it’s a career path akin to the horse and buggy maker.
  - cschmidt 6y ago
    Actually Stitchfix is an interesting example of “human in the loop” AI. The AI makes recommendations to the stylist, who assembles outfits. Presumably the stylist is still adding value or they wouldn’t have them.
    - koolba 6y ago
      Either way, if people can be scammed^Wconvinced into using their own car to make deliveries for a few bucks that barely covers depreciation, then you can definitely find someone to sit on their computer and click through pictures of clothing for less than an SF city livable salary.
  - dlkf 6y ago
    I'm not convinced of this. We could easily have used software to procedurally generate outfits from a selection of components since the 1980s. Why hasn't this already happened?
    - greedo 6y ago
      The same reason that Jobs (and Ive) were the arbiters of what Apple shipped for many years; you can't program taste or style.
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
  Putting someone’s job title in quotes like that is super condescending. It’s bad taste, especially when you make more and you’re commenting on a post where 1,400 of them got laid off.
  - koolba 6y ago
    > Putting someone’s job title in quotes like that is super condescending. It’s bad taste, especially when you make more and you’re commenting on a post where 1,400 of them got laid off. It's in quotes with an inline description because, while it's the actual job title for the positions in question, it's also a common English word that in most circles would refer to a "hair stylist". Ascribing negative intentions to minor punctuation and making up biographies about your fellow commentators says more about your bad taste and biases than mine.
- david38 6y ago
  You clearly don’t know much about how style jobs work. Sometimes it can be done anywhere, but there is a difference. Like most of the nicer things in life, if you can’t tell the difference, then it’s not for you. I suppose you think it’s lunacy that hair dressers think they can live in the city as well.
dhimes 6y ago
UBI = "universal basic income" here

koolba 6y ago

Context matters. The current economic climate is in no way representative of normalcy as we just shut down a large chunk of it indefinitely. That aside, the idea that you can finance life in the highest cost living areas of the USA as a “stylist” (picking items for a clothing subscription) is lunacy. Clearly that work can be done anywhere and it’s only a matter of time till it’s pushed to the lowest cost areas. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cost of such labor goes to near zero as they attempt to start “paying” people with publicity instead.

godzillabrennus 6y ago
The job of a stylist will largely be automated away with AI. There will be a few needed to keep training the machines but it’s a career path akin to the horse and buggy maker.
- cschmidt 6y ago
  Actually Stitchfix is an interesting example of “human in the loop” AI. The AI makes recommendations to the stylist, who assembles outfits. Presumably the stylist is still adding value or they wouldn’t have them.
  - koolba 6y ago
    Either way, if people can be scammed^Wconvinced into using their own car to make deliveries for a few bucks that barely covers depreciation, then you can definitely find someone to sit on their computer and click through pictures of clothing for less than an SF city livable salary.
- dlkf 6y ago
  I'm not convinced of this. We could easily have used software to procedurally generate outfits from a selection of components since the 1980s. Why hasn't this already happened?
  - greedo 6y ago
    The same reason that Jobs (and Ive) were the arbiters of what Apple shipped for many years; you can't program taste or style.
6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
Putting someone’s job title in quotes like that is super condescending. It’s bad taste, especially when you make more and you’re commenting on a post where 1,400 of them got laid off.
- koolba 6y ago
  > Putting someone’s job title in quotes like that is super condescending. It’s bad taste, especially when you make more and you’re commenting on a post where 1,400 of them got laid off. It's in quotes with an inline description because, while it's the actual job title for the positions in question, it's also a common English word that in most circles would refer to a "hair stylist". Ascribing negative intentions to minor punctuation and making up biographies about your fellow commentators says more about your bad taste and biases than mine.
david38 6y ago
You clearly don’t know much about how style jobs work. Sometimes it can be done anywhere, but there is a difference. Like most of the nicer things in life, if you can’t tell the difference, then it’s not for you. I suppose you think it’s lunacy that hair dressers think they can live in the city as well.

dhimes 6y ago

UBI = "universal basic income" here