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It's not about censoring or not censoring. It's about Facebook actually giving a shit about the state of the world it's in, and not just Mark Zuckerberg's inces

by vore 6y ago

It's not about censoring or not censoring. It's about Facebook actually giving a shit about the state of the world it's in, and not just Mark Zuckerberg's incessant handwringing about "feeling disgust" but... doing nothing about it. Too long have abhorrent actions by Donald Trump gone completely unchecked by major platforms and, if Facebook won't even do the token step of doing something about a clearly racist and disgusting message, then they are truly spineless and complicit.

PixyMisa 6y ago
So get a Facebook account and disagree with Trump. That is up to you. It is not up to them.
- vore 6y ago
  I'm pretty sure that's the equivalent of screaming into the void.
Kiro 6y ago
Open your eyes and you will see a world filled with equally terrible or worse leaders. Once Facebook opens the box they need to draw an arbitrary line for every country in the whole world.
- vore 6y ago
  Given how Facebook has literally been used to incite genocide in Myanmar and how quickly they had to backpedal on that, they've already been drawing these lines. If they're as opposed to violence as they say, it shouldn't matter if it's a leader or not.
humanrebar 6y ago
What's the common standard then? Does it ban leaders of countries that oppress homosexuals and other minorities as policy? Leaders who actually imprison political dissenters? Donald Trump is a bad president IMO, but there are far worse people (and their spokespeople) active on social media. The inconsistent standard makes this seem more like virtue signalling, which isn't quite "giving a shit about the state of the world". EDIT: Corrected a typo. I think Trump is a bad president.
- vore 6y ago
  So? Flag their messages too. You and I are both agreeing what Trump is saying is horrendous. And, for what it's worth, I'm gay and a part of a minority and I am privileged to live somewhere where there's little repression for who I am. I absolutely want to see people pushing back on countries that have terrible leaders who would repress my life: if you're going to shrug then say "well that's just policy", that honestly sucks. I'd take "virtue signalling" any day over whatever this response from Facebook is.
  - devado 6y ago
    > I am privileged to live somewhere where there's little repression for who I am. We reached here because we had complete freedom of speech. And you are against that very thing, the irony
    - vore 6y ago
      This is a complete non-sequitur to what I said.
devado 6y ago
> Too long have abhorrent actions by Donald Trump gone completely unchecked by major platforms Why blame the platforms? What have the society, people, leaders done about it? He is the elected president after all. Hint: maybe there is a very large chunk of population that agrees with him. This might disgust you but I don't know what the fix is if a huge number of people are "backward"

by vore 6y ago

PixyMisa 6y ago

So get a Facebook account and disagree with Trump. That is up to you. It is not up to them.

vore 6y ago
I'm pretty sure that's the equivalent of screaming into the void.

Kiro 6y ago

Open your eyes and you will see a world filled with equally terrible or worse leaders. Once Facebook opens the box they need to draw an arbitrary line for every country in the whole world.

vore 6y ago
Given how Facebook has literally been used to incite genocide in Myanmar and how quickly they had to backpedal on that, they've already been drawing these lines. If they're as opposed to violence as they say, it shouldn't matter if it's a leader or not.

humanrebar 6y ago

What's the common standard then? Does it ban leaders of countries that oppress homosexuals and other minorities as policy? Leaders who actually imprison political dissenters? Donald Trump is a bad president IMO, but there are far worse people (and their spokespeople) active on social media. The inconsistent standard makes this seem more like virtue signalling, which isn't quite "giving a shit about the state of the world". EDIT: Corrected a typo. I think Trump is a bad president.

vore 6y ago
So? Flag their messages too. You and I are both agreeing what Trump is saying is horrendous. And, for what it's worth, I'm gay and a part of a minority and I am privileged to live somewhere where there's little repression for who I am. I absolutely want to see people pushing back on countries that have terrible leaders who would repress my life: if you're going to shrug then say "well that's just policy", that honestly sucks. I'd take "virtue signalling" any day over whatever this response from Facebook is.
- devado 6y ago
  > I am privileged to live somewhere where there's little repression for who I am. We reached here because we had complete freedom of speech. And you are against that very thing, the irony
  - vore 6y ago
    This is a complete non-sequitur to what I said.

devado 6y ago

> Too long have abhorrent actions by Donald Trump gone completely unchecked by major platforms Why blame the platforms? What have the society, people, leaders done about it? He is the elected president after all. Hint: maybe there is a very large chunk of population that agrees with him. This might disgust you but I don't know what the fix is if a huge number of people are "backward"