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>There is also a terrible and shameful one I had never seen before, "Everyone to the Polish front". Do the owners know what they are posting there? it isn't re
by trhway 6y ago
>There is also a terrible and shameful one I had never seen before, "Everyone to the Polish front". Do the owners know what they are posting there?
it isn't really more terrible/shameful than the rest of Revolution and Civil War related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War
- The Red Army was trying to get to Germany to support the Revolution there. It was along the ideology of sparking worldwide Revolution. It is just happened that the path was through Poland who wasn't a part of Russia anymore - it was a young independent nation state which has finally just got it independence back after more than 200 years of it being lost, and who had their own big plans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium, and didn't want to be steamrolled by Russia again. Polish were very enthusiastic in that war and tore the Red Army/Bolsheviks a new one. Btw, Stalin was one of the main commanders of that invading force. In the history lessons in USSR schools those events were kind of muted and/or pretty much lost from the narrative together with many other events/facts which would be hard to fit into the supposedly glorious story of Revolution and Civil War victory by Bolsheviks.
- rdtsc 6y agoVery good background, thank you for replying. They tried to capture Warsaw. Budyonny's thugs were brutal as well. But it is interesting that somehow Budyonny managed to be a hero in the end after technically losing the war. Another aspect of course is that it set the stage for Russians try to "recapture" Poland, and made a deal with the Nazi Germany to "split it" between themselves in 1939. That's when the Soviet secret police committed a lot atrocities there.
- Shivetya 6y agoWell eventually they do take all that territory and more in their "liberation" of Poland and more from Germany though they love to have the world ignore the annexations of Latvian countries and attempt to take Finland when they opened WW2 with Germany. So of the two aggressor states that started WW2 they gained a lot of what they were after and left the world with decades of oppression.
- fuoqi 6y agoOh, it's very convenient to forget the fact that Poland has occupied Czechoslovakia territory in 38 as part of the Munich Agreement supported by the "free" world. "Hyena of Europe" is a really good description in my opinion. Even before WW2 Poland has shamelessly invaded Ukraine and Belarus during the civil war in an attempt to implement its Intermarium imperialistic vision. You reap what you sow.