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The two Stitch Fix stylists that I've known both worked remotely and I got the impression that most of them did. Is that not true? If it is true, how do you re

The two Stitch Fix stylists that I've known both worked remotely and I got the impression that most of them did. Is that not true? If it is true, how do you relocate a remote worker?

tyingq 6y ago
The requirement to relocate makes me wonder if the true reason is to avoid some current, or likely future California labor law. Why not just offer a straight salary cut, since they are already, as you say...remote?
onemoresoop 6y ago
In this case perhaps rehire with slashed salary. Some people in need would take it
- toyg 6y ago
  And resent you forever, as well as likely to leave very soon. It would be a liability.
  - dividedbyzero 6y ago
    That isn't a problem at all in a lot of industries; sure, you may have to coddle tech workers for now, treat them like actual human beings and all that nonsense, but imagine a future where you can treat just like your warehouse staff. Wouldn't that be neat? /s On a more serious note, I know a few companies who do treat their tech people like disposable inventory, on par with the lower-prestige roles, and it works out just fine for them. They don't get highly motivated world-class talent, but they don't need that sort of talent; just someone to take care of their relatively modest IT/dev needs. It's not very efficient across a lot of metrics, but low salaries probably compensate for that. This seems to be a trend across all sorts of industries, less and less jobs that pay well, less employees that get coddled and treated well, commoditize the hell out of every last role etc. – just because it's not a big thing in much of tech yet probably doesn't mean it's an impossibility.
    - granshaw 6y ago
      It’s already happening IMO. Tech wage growth has been pretty slow esp outside of the FAANGs, and many agreed upon “best practices” are commonplace in the industry now, leaving less room for differentiation among workers
    - geodel 6y ago
      > but imagine a future where you can treat just like your warehouse staff. Wouldn't that be neat? I think that day is closer than many imagine. If I take out well paying / no physical labor part I am as a Jira slave and daily standup chump are lot closer to warehouse worker than silicon valley type pampered engineer.
  - matz1 6y ago
    Thats normal, in most industry, the worker resent their employer. They come and leave all the time. A company purpose is to make money, not to take care of its employees.
paxys 6y ago
"We are going to cut your salary in half. You should move to a cheaper city to make up for it."
- babesh 6y ago
  Lower minimum wage floor in those areas.
- Melting_Harps 6y ago
  > "We are going to cut your salary in half. You should move to a cheaper city to make up for it." To think that less than 4 months ago People were ridiculing Andrew Yang and other proponents of UBI. I admit having it be, initially anyway, State sanctioned bothers me a great deal; but the fact is gainful employment is no longer a reliable aspect of modern Life for many in Society. This will continue to cut deeper and deeper, and for anyone not paying attention these protests and riots in the US have a much deeper sense of resentment than just Police Brutality against black males. And it's felt throughout the spectrum of underemployed, highly indebted underclass. Its like the bottled and pent up anger from the Occupy movement coming back. In many ways this reminds me of the London Riots of 2011, when London police killed a young black male named Mark Duggan [1] and it exposed a myriad of sociological, and socio-economic issues that quite frankly still remain to this day. 1: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/three-riot-lessons-from-londons-2011-experience https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/three-riot-lesson...
  - koolba 6y ago
    Context matters. The current economic climate is in no way representative of normalcy as we just shut down a large chunk of it indefinitely. That aside, the idea that you can finance life in the highest cost living areas of the USA as a “stylist” (picking items for a clothing subscription) is lunacy. Clearly that work can be done anywhere and it’s only a matter of time till it’s pushed to the lowest cost areas. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cost of such labor goes to near zero as they attempt to start “paying” people with publicity instead.
    - 6y ago

The two Stitch Fix stylists that I've known both worked remotely and I got the impression that most of them did. Is that not true? If it is true, how do you relocate a remote worker?

tyingq 6y ago

The requirement to relocate makes me wonder if the true reason is to avoid some current, or likely future California labor law. Why not just offer a straight salary cut, since they are already, as you say...remote?

onemoresoop 6y ago

In this case perhaps rehire with slashed salary. Some people in need would take it

toyg 6y ago
And resent you forever, as well as likely to leave very soon. It would be a liability.
- dividedbyzero 6y ago
  That isn't a problem at all in a lot of industries; sure, you may have to coddle tech workers for now, treat them like actual human beings and all that nonsense, but imagine a future where you can treat just like your warehouse staff. Wouldn't that be neat? /s On a more serious note, I know a few companies who do treat their tech people like disposable inventory, on par with the lower-prestige roles, and it works out just fine for them. They don't get highly motivated world-class talent, but they don't need that sort of talent; just someone to take care of their relatively modest IT/dev needs. It's not very efficient across a lot of metrics, but low salaries probably compensate for that. This seems to be a trend across all sorts of industries, less and less jobs that pay well, less employees that get coddled and treated well, commoditize the hell out of every last role etc. – just because it's not a big thing in much of tech yet probably doesn't mean it's an impossibility.
  - granshaw 6y ago
    It’s already happening IMO. Tech wage growth has been pretty slow esp outside of the FAANGs, and many agreed upon “best practices” are commonplace in the industry now, leaving less room for differentiation among workers
  - geodel 6y ago
    > but imagine a future where you can treat just like your warehouse staff. Wouldn't that be neat? I think that day is closer than many imagine. If I take out well paying / no physical labor part I am as a Jira slave and daily standup chump are lot closer to warehouse worker than silicon valley type pampered engineer.
- matz1 6y ago
  Thats normal, in most industry, the worker resent their employer. They come and leave all the time. A company purpose is to make money, not to take care of its employees.

paxys 6y ago

"We are going to cut your salary in half. You should move to a cheaper city to make up for it."

babesh 6y ago
Lower minimum wage floor in those areas.
Melting_Harps 6y ago
> "We are going to cut your salary in half. You should move to a cheaper city to make up for it." To think that less than 4 months ago People were ridiculing Andrew Yang and other proponents of UBI. I admit having it be, initially anyway, State sanctioned bothers me a great deal; but the fact is gainful employment is no longer a reliable aspect of modern Life for many in Society. This will continue to cut deeper and deeper, and for anyone not paying attention these protests and riots in the US have a much deeper sense of resentment than just Police Brutality against black males. And it's felt throughout the spectrum of underemployed, highly indebted underclass. Its like the bottled and pent up anger from the Occupy movement coming back. In many ways this reminds me of the London Riots of 2011, when London police killed a young black male named Mark Duggan [1] and it exposed a myriad of sociological, and socio-economic issues that quite frankly still remain to this day. 1: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/three-riot-lessons-from-londons-2011-experience https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/three-riot-lesson...
- koolba 6y ago
  Context matters. The current economic climate is in no way representative of normalcy as we just shut down a large chunk of it indefinitely. That aside, the idea that you can finance life in the highest cost living areas of the USA as a “stylist” (picking items for a clothing subscription) is lunacy. Clearly that work can be done anywhere and it’s only a matter of time till it’s pushed to the lowest cost areas. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cost of such labor goes to near zero as they attempt to start “paying” people with publicity instead.
  - 6y ago