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No, they really weren't - or at least not in any way that might lead to actionable results Can you substantiate that, or is it just your opinion? You can justi

No, they really weren't - or at least not in any way that might lead to actionable results Can you substantiate that, or is it just your opinion? You can justify the imposition of your opinion on everyone? (Through violent intimidation?) like building systems that do not give cops the power to murder people without accountability This has happened, incrementally. Can you design a system, ground-up that will work as well as the current one? I suspect that's far more likely than iterating on the current one. That's also an opinion.

vertex-four 6y ago
> This has happened, incrementally. Do you have statistics that show that? Are more cops charged and imprisoned after murdering unarmed people every year, or does the number of unarmed murdered people go down, at all? People who die mysteriously in custody?
- Joeri 6y ago
  “Fatal police shootings of unarmed people have significantly declined, experts say” https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-people-have-significantly-declined-experts-say/2018/05/03/d5eab374-4349-11e8-8569-26fda6b404c7_story.html?fbclid=IwAR2MjduOM-Ak37IhlNLTogd74u43hjxSWHS7YEXU8ajcQAqPQ2HyjohNKbA https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-s... However, the overall trend in police killings is flat. https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends Interestingly: “White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspects” https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-whit...
  - nolsoniente 6y ago
    And you dont need to be black to get suffocated by police https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/you-re-gonna-kill-me-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-the-final-minutes-of-tony-timpa-s-life/ https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/yo...
  - TeaDrunk 6y ago
    According to from what I understand fatal police shootings have declined in dense cities but have increased everywhere else.

vertex-four 6y ago

> This has happened, incrementally. Do you have statistics that show that? Are more cops charged and imprisoned after murdering unarmed people every year, or does the number of unarmed murdered people go down, at all? People who die mysteriously in custody?

Joeri 6y ago
“Fatal police shootings of unarmed people have significantly declined, experts say” https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-people-have-significantly-declined-experts-say/2018/05/03/d5eab374-4349-11e8-8569-26fda6b404c7_story.html?fbclid=IwAR2MjduOM-Ak37IhlNLTogd74u43hjxSWHS7YEXU8ajcQAqPQ2HyjohNKbA https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fatal-police-s... However, the overall trend in police killings is flat. https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends Interestingly: “White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspects” https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-whit...
- nolsoniente 6y ago
  And you dont need to be black to get suffocated by police https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/you-re-gonna-kill-me-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-the-final-minutes-of-tony-timpa-s-life/ https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/yo...
- TeaDrunk 6y ago
  According to from what I understand fatal police shootings have declined in dense cities but have increased everywhere else.