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and you could do the SAME thing with black people and homicide and aggravated assault rates. Then you would go on to say those particular rates are racist to s

and you could do the SAME thing with black people and homicide and aggravated assault rates. Then you would go on to say those particular rates are racist to say. Are you ready to stop rationalizing away the deaths that everyone is facing and stop arguing over skin color and start talking about police brutality? or do you want to keep arguing about something besides the point? if so, why?

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robotresearcher 6y ago
No one is arguing we don't have a police brutality problem. I'm not sure why you hear that. I think a large rate difference between white and black is meaningful information. Why do you prefer that information not be added? > Then you would go on to say those particular rates are racist to say. That didn't happen either. Your expectations are off.
komali2 6y ago
> aggravated assault rates. You actually can't, because such studies are based on arrest rates, not the unstudied "amount it actually happens." Furthermore, something like that can't be pinned on "race," which is already a nebulous concept that exists only as an ill-defined cultural construct, whereas "cop" is a defined entity.
- autokad 6y ago
  See, that's exactly what I am talking about, you will do anything to rationalize away anything that doesnt fit your world view. And you will keep arguing over points dealing with how much melanin we have in our skin instead of actually talking about the issue of police brutality. But you really dont want that do you. It makes me wonder if you have some other agenda. Are you using this as a power move to gain political capital on some other set of ideas? Do you just want to see the world burn so you encourage ideas of separation and avoid talking about solutions?
yters 6y ago
i think the cop issue is a higher standard cops have a lawful monopoly on force, and if you cannot trust that will be used justly, then we lose the whole basis of rule by law

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robotresearcher 6y ago

No one is arguing we don't have a police brutality problem. I'm not sure why you hear that. I think a large rate difference between white and black is meaningful information. Why do you prefer that information not be added? > Then you would go on to say those particular rates are racist to say. That didn't happen either. Your expectations are off.

komali2 6y ago

> aggravated assault rates. You actually can't, because such studies are based on arrest rates, not the unstudied "amount it actually happens." Furthermore, something like that can't be pinned on "race," which is already a nebulous concept that exists only as an ill-defined cultural construct, whereas "cop" is a defined entity.

autokad 6y ago
See, that's exactly what I am talking about, you will do anything to rationalize away anything that doesnt fit your world view. And you will keep arguing over points dealing with how much melanin we have in our skin instead of actually talking about the issue of police brutality. But you really dont want that do you. It makes me wonder if you have some other agenda. Are you using this as a power move to gain political capital on some other set of ideas? Do you just want to see the world burn so you encourage ideas of separation and avoid talking about solutions?

yters 6y ago

i think the cop issue is a higher standard cops have a lawful monopoly on force, and if you cannot trust that will be used justly, then we lose the whole basis of rule by law