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I'm Russian and Georgian native speaker. Short answer to your question is "NO", but I would not bother writing it, if not the long answer I really want to shar
by adontz 6y ago
I'm Russian and Georgian native speaker.
Short answer to your question is "NO", but I would not bother writing it, if not the long answer I really want to share.
While languages I speak are not similar at all, I see the same behavior among my colleagues, whatever their native language is. They use IT specific English words mixed into their native language.
What is even more interesting, is that these English words do not replace native words, but become domain specific language.
So, for instance, for Georgian.
Task is "ამოცანა" (amotsana)
Done is "დამთავრებული" (damt'avrebuli)
So one and the same person will tell you ამოცანა დავამთავრე (amostana davamt'avre) when speaking about some task in general, but when it's about task in Jira, it becomes "ტასკი დავდანე" ([task]i dav[done]e)
For Russian it's almost the same.
Fixing is "исправлять" (ispravliat) or "чинить" (chinit)
Bug is "ошибка" (oshibka)
But nobody is "исправляет ошибки" (ispravliaet oshibki) when it's about IT. Living person would say "фиксить баги" ([fix]it [bug]i). But nobody would say "фиксить" (fixit) about a car.
You may notice that English words grow suffixes and prefixed to adopt to grammar of another language. It's not the language you may find in books, but it is how people around me communicate.
- fivre 6y agoA rather belated comment in HN timescales, but whatever. I'm a English-native Russian learner, and most of my exposure to the phenomenon of English as the lingua franca of computer stuff was in college, where it was bizarre to hear the Chinese students discussing their (programming languages) project in Mandarin while dropping in "parser!", "tokenizer!", "scanner!" every fifth word. Learning Russian I was taught that half the vocabulary was random words Pushkin borrowed from French. I then actually went to Russia and was bemused at the prevalence of odd English loanwords ("ксерокс" will forever be a favorite) despite knowing the linguistic processes that introduce them, and being doubly bemused at the adoption of English grammatical conventions (how can you name a homegrown chicken chain "Ростик’с"? HOW!?"). It hasn't stopped, and is now at the point where it's prevalent enough to be a tongue-in-cheek joke in pop music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4h-WpSsXVw&t=1m57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4h-WpSsXVw&t=1m57s). It's kind of amusing learning a language to then watch it transform by bits and pieces into some mishmash between your native language and whatever it was before, which was itself a mush of old languages cobbled together into something people actually speak nowadays, or thenadays, I suppose.
- mappu 6y agoI'm star-struck every time I see the Georgian alphabet, those letters are beautiful.
- adontz 6y agoAww thanks. I mean... მადლობა :-) მე ყოველთვის მიხარია როცა გამომდის ქართული კულტურის გაზიარება პოზიტიურ კონტექსტში.