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Hundreds of videos have emerged of police brutality over the past few days. In how many of those videos do you see "good cops" taking down those bad cops commit

Hundreds of videos have emerged of police brutality over the past few days. In how many of those videos do you see "good cops" taking down those bad cops committing acts of brutality? Almost never. I myself have only seen two videos where this has been the case, out of hundreds! Police racism and violence is an issue, but it becomes egregious when the rest of the police force just stands by.

Larrikin 6y ago
>Almost never. Are there any videos or stories at all over the past few days? There have been reports in some cities of the actual good cops here and there taking part in the protests and actually looking like they want to improve things in their communities, but I haven't heard of anything where the police have intervened on cops that were escalating violence and brutalizing protesters. It would be a pretty big turning point in the protests if this is actually happening
- selimthegrim 6y ago
  Would this be like in Orlando where they took a knee with the protesters and promptly resumed teargassing them an hour later?
- evan_ 6y ago
  There’s a video of a cop pushing a kneeling woman and then a black woman police officer yells at him for a little bit, that’s about it. I guess you could count the video of a Seattle cop telling another cop to take his knee off of a protester’s throat.
  - MertsA 6y ago
    > I guess you could count the video of a Seattle cop telling another cop to take his knee off of a protester’s throat. Yeah but that only happened after the crowd was screaming at them to take their knee off. I doubt that would have happened if it weren't for the protestors and the optics of doing literally exactly what kicked off this latest protest to begin with. If those cops were alone and making that arrest a month ago I highly doubt the other cop would have stepped in to move his knee.
  - tw000001 6y ago
    There are literal videos of cops kneeling with protestors in shows of solidarity. Peacefully talking. In LA they're sitting right now. I cannot believe how far people will go seeing what they want to see.
    - komali2 6y ago
      Yup, and then there's other videos of cops marching with protesters... Straight into the waiting arms of the national guard, where protesters get boxed in, shot at, and arrested. On the whole, the cops have been insanely brutal.
    - evan_ 6y ago
      The police in Columbus, Ohio marched with protesters earlier today, minutes ago they tear gassed legal media observers despite their plainly identifying themselves. Countless more examples. It’s PR. https://twitter.com/TheLantern/status/1267644471317090305 https://twitter.com/TheLantern/status/1267644471317090305
    - thephyber 6y ago
      You are arguing a completely different point than your parent/thread. You are saying "there exist police departments which are friendly with the protesters". The thread you are replying to isn't talking about protests; it's discussing the absence of evidence where police officers actively intervened and stopped the excessive use of force by a fellow officer. In the USA, a civilian doesn't have the right to defend themselves from an officer under any circumstances in most states. A very few states allow you to shoot to defend yourself (even from officers who don't present themselves as officers) under very narrow circumstances. Any way you cut it, police are given benefit of the doubt when interacting with suspects but the cheaper internet-connected cameras get, the more evidence that we should probably revisit that long-held doctrine.
prawn 6y ago
The only one I've seen was where two cops were restraining someone while being filmed. One of the cops had his knee on the arrestee's head/neck, and after some time his partner (administering cuffs perhaps) noticed it and wrenched his knee away.
- 8note 6y ago
  I think I saw that one; they took the knee away because it was on a white guy's neck, wasn't it? We've already seen what happens when it's a black guy's neck
  - prawn 6y ago
    In this case, the knee was there regardless and the colleague recognised the "bad optics" (as they say). Looked like natural behaviour from the first cop rather than "I'm trying to prove we kneel on all necks" too.
  - silverreads 6y ago
    He bent down, listened to the guy, and then moved his partner's knee.

Larrikin 6y ago

>Almost never. Are there any videos or stories at all over the past few days? There have been reports in some cities of the actual good cops here and there taking part in the protests and actually looking like they want to improve things in their communities, but I haven't heard of anything where the police have intervened on cops that were escalating violence and brutalizing protesters. It would be a pretty big turning point in the protests if this is actually happening

selimthegrim 6y ago
Would this be like in Orlando where they took a knee with the protesters and promptly resumed teargassing them an hour later?
evan_ 6y ago
There’s a video of a cop pushing a kneeling woman and then a black woman police officer yells at him for a little bit, that’s about it. I guess you could count the video of a Seattle cop telling another cop to take his knee off of a protester’s throat.
- MertsA 6y ago
  > I guess you could count the video of a Seattle cop telling another cop to take his knee off of a protester’s throat. Yeah but that only happened after the crowd was screaming at them to take their knee off. I doubt that would have happened if it weren't for the protestors and the optics of doing literally exactly what kicked off this latest protest to begin with. If those cops were alone and making that arrest a month ago I highly doubt the other cop would have stepped in to move his knee.
- tw000001 6y ago
  There are literal videos of cops kneeling with protestors in shows of solidarity. Peacefully talking. In LA they're sitting right now. I cannot believe how far people will go seeing what they want to see.
  - komali2 6y ago
    Yup, and then there's other videos of cops marching with protesters... Straight into the waiting arms of the national guard, where protesters get boxed in, shot at, and arrested. On the whole, the cops have been insanely brutal.
  - evan_ 6y ago
    The police in Columbus, Ohio marched with protesters earlier today, minutes ago they tear gassed legal media observers despite their plainly identifying themselves. Countless more examples. It’s PR. https://twitter.com/TheLantern/status/1267644471317090305 https://twitter.com/TheLantern/status/1267644471317090305
  - thephyber 6y ago
    You are arguing a completely different point than your parent/thread. You are saying "there exist police departments which are friendly with the protesters". The thread you are replying to isn't talking about protests; it's discussing the absence of evidence where police officers actively intervened and stopped the excessive use of force by a fellow officer. In the USA, a civilian doesn't have the right to defend themselves from an officer under any circumstances in most states. A very few states allow you to shoot to defend yourself (even from officers who don't present themselves as officers) under very narrow circumstances. Any way you cut it, police are given benefit of the doubt when interacting with suspects but the cheaper internet-connected cameras get, the more evidence that we should probably revisit that long-held doctrine.

prawn 6y ago

The only one I've seen was where two cops were restraining someone while being filmed. One of the cops had his knee on the arrestee's head/neck, and after some time his partner (administering cuffs perhaps) noticed it and wrenched his knee away.

8note 6y ago
I think I saw that one; they took the knee away because it was on a white guy's neck, wasn't it? We've already seen what happens when it's a black guy's neck
- prawn 6y ago
  In this case, the knee was there regardless and the colleague recognised the "bad optics" (as they say). Looked like natural behaviour from the first cop rather than "I'm trying to prove we kneel on all necks" too.
- silverreads 6y ago
  He bent down, listened to the guy, and then moved his partner's knee.