> Believe me, if cameras were sufficient people wouldn't use LIDAR I don't necessarily think LIDAR is a bad idea, but this logic seems kind of circular. Isn't

> Believe me, if cameras were sufficient people wouldn't use LIDAR I don't necessarily think LIDAR is a bad idea, but this logic seems kind of circular. Isn't the issue that nobody knows what's sufficient? At the very least the engineers at Tesla seem to think LIDAR isn't necessary (maybe not a slam-dunk argument but humans don't use LIDAR to drive, so it's at the very least plausible computer vision systems alone are sufficient)