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For those not from the US ... How voter disenfranchisement works is like this. One party (usually the Republicans) looks at a map of areas they're losing in. T

For those not from the US ... How voter disenfranchisement works is like this. One party (usually the Republicans) looks at a map of areas they're losing in. Then they send a bunch of canvassers over to find out who moved without changing their address, who was sent to jail, technicalities, etc. and request those names be removed from the voter registration list. There's no effort to update the list, it's all removals. And the canvassers don't disclose their actual party or motivation for showing up at your house.

sokoloff 6y ago
It seems entirely "fair play" (and even desirable) to me to exclude from the voting rolls anyone who is not actually eligible to vote per the election rules. While I'd prefer the election commission do this investigative work to keep the lists clean, I'm fine with anyone who goes and does it. (I am unaffiliated with either major party.) Is there a genuine public interest served by not performing this data cleansing and allowing ineligible voters to cast ballots?
- mikeyouse 6y ago
  That's only ever fair if you have instant registration with provisional ballots - many jurisdictions combine these attacks on the vote with long lead times for voter registration so you go to the polls to find out you aren't registered and are left with no recourse. Of course they use dirty lists to begin with that remove thousands of properly registered voters, which I'm sure is accidental and not at all hostile to democracy.[1] I'm so tired of groups actively suppressing vote and people insisting it's all well and good since hypothetically it's preventing some type of fraud that has never been shown to happen in practice. When Stephanie Hofeller published her father's files, all pretense was dropped. Just naked, racist, partisan bullshit.[2] [1] https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/many-eligible-georgia-voters-were-canceled-nation-largest-purge/jRlixHpVs0I9wVQYdDjxvM/ https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/many... [2] https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/785672201/deceased-gop-strategists-daughter-makes-files-public-that-republicans-wanted-sea https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/785672201/deceased-gop-strate...

sokoloff 6y ago

It seems entirely "fair play" (and even desirable) to me to exclude from the voting rolls anyone who is not actually eligible to vote per the election rules. While I'd prefer the election commission do this investigative work to keep the lists clean, I'm fine with anyone who goes and does it. (I am unaffiliated with either major party.) Is there a genuine public interest served by not performing this data cleansing and allowing ineligible voters to cast ballots?

mikeyouse 6y ago
That's only ever fair if you have instant registration with provisional ballots - many jurisdictions combine these attacks on the vote with long lead times for voter registration so you go to the polls to find out you aren't registered and are left with no recourse. Of course they use dirty lists to begin with that remove thousands of properly registered voters, which I'm sure is accidental and not at all hostile to democracy.[1] I'm so tired of groups actively suppressing vote and people insisting it's all well and good since hypothetically it's preventing some type of fraud that has never been shown to happen in practice. When Stephanie Hofeller published her father's files, all pretense was dropped. Just naked, racist, partisan bullshit.[2] [1] https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/many-eligible-georgia-voters-were-canceled-nation-largest-purge/jRlixHpVs0I9wVQYdDjxvM/ https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/many... [2] https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/785672201/deceased-gop-strategists-daughter-makes-files-public-that-republicans-wanted-sea https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/785672201/deceased-gop-strate...