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Interesting argument. Why doesn't a plane fly like a bird? Why don't we have submarines that swim like fishes? (for the sake of clarity, yes I'm being sarcasti

Interesting argument. Why doesn't a plane fly like a bird? Why don't we have submarines that swim like fishes? (for the sake of clarity, yes I'm being sarcastic to demonstrate how stupid that argument is. Humans have eyes but also got a brain that is way more powerful than any AI that we have today)

NicoJuicy 6y ago
Because the technology isn't/wasn't there and is "good enough" as it is. But it doesn't compare to the efficiency of millions of years of evolution. Eg. Feathers for flying + flexible bone structure and absorbing skin for water pressure. I will react with the question: although we can dive and fly. Wouldn't it be better, if we adapt to nature's evolution? Eg. Put on a feather- suit, jump start the engine to get off the ground and then float to the destination and only let the engine kick in when we need to go higher/land? Riding on earth's natural wind and sparing fuel resources ( going off topic here) On topic: ML/AI should be able to datafy all related information that human eyes perceive. And those datapoints need to be handled by every situation that occurs. The article clearly shows that this is not the case yet. While a brain has more adaptability, Tesla should be able to counteract this with more data of the vehicles that drive around.
arcticfox 6y ago
> yes I'm being sarcastic to demonstrate how stupid that argument is What is stupid about the argument as it was framed? It should be possible to drive autonomously with only cameras. It may or may not be possible with our current AI and techniques. It also may or may not be much easier to pull off with LIDAR et al. IMO the jury is still out and will be for a while. Remember that humans always seem vastly superior to AIs until all of a sudden they're vastly inferior.
- NicoJuicy 6y ago
  Musk is planning for a solution that drives as good as the best driver in bad weather. Adding LIDAR and other solutions, is currently bullshit. I don't think there is proven hardware to see past extreme bad weather. But that is not what Tesla is doing. They want their solution to work in conditions where humans can drive ( eg. Heavy snow, but not a snow storm that blocks every sight)

NicoJuicy 6y ago

Because the technology isn't/wasn't there and is "good enough" as it is. But it doesn't compare to the efficiency of millions of years of evolution. Eg. Feathers for flying + flexible bone structure and absorbing skin for water pressure. I will react with the question: although we can dive and fly. Wouldn't it be better, if we adapt to nature's evolution? Eg. Put on a feather- suit, jump start the engine to get off the ground and then float to the destination and only let the engine kick in when we need to go higher/land? Riding on earth's natural wind and sparing fuel resources ( going off topic here) On topic: ML/AI should be able to datafy all related information that human eyes perceive. And those datapoints need to be handled by every situation that occurs. The article clearly shows that this is not the case yet. While a brain has more adaptability, Tesla should be able to counteract this with more data of the vehicles that drive around.

arcticfox 6y ago

> yes I'm being sarcastic to demonstrate how stupid that argument is What is stupid about the argument as it was framed? It should be possible to drive autonomously with only cameras. It may or may not be possible with our current AI and techniques. It also may or may not be much easier to pull off with LIDAR et al. IMO the jury is still out and will be for a while. Remember that humans always seem vastly superior to AIs until all of a sudden they're vastly inferior.

NicoJuicy 6y ago
Musk is planning for a solution that drives as good as the best driver in bad weather. Adding LIDAR and other solutions, is currently bullshit. I don't think there is proven hardware to see past extreme bad weather. But that is not what Tesla is doing. They want their solution to work in conditions where humans can drive ( eg. Heavy snow, but not a snow storm that blocks every sight)