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Suppose the candidates for the sortition are selected using following method: Phase 1: Each citizen has a right to nominate one candidate. We assume that citize
by vadiml 6y ago
Suppose the candidates for the sortition are selected using following method:
Phase 1: Each citizen has a right to nominate one candidate. We assume that citizens will nominate persons with whom they are acquainted personally and whom they believe are honest and competetnt.
Phase 2: We count nominations for each potential candidate
end keep in the pool only these who have between 10 and 50 nominations. This way we select only person who are considered honest and competent by at least 10 people, and who are also NOT public figures.
Phase 3. We implement sortition between the candidates left in the pool. This way we have excellent probability to have parliament full of honest and competent peuople.
- notahacker 6y agoA nominations system in which vouching for a candidate is more likely to harm than help their chances of appointment [especially if one is sufficiently convinced of their competence to believe 10 other people will feel likewise] is palpably absurd.
- vadiml 6y agoDon't you personally know somebody who you consider be a good candidate? I do...
- notahacker 6y agoThis seems to be missing the point (maybe my wording is at fault). If somebody I know has 49 people voting for them, they might be selected under this system. If I nominate them, because I also think they might be a good candidate, I stop them from having any chance of being selected. The only time my vote is definitely helpful to somebody is if most people they know definitely wouldn't trust them. (Not to mention how easily the system is gamed by a membership groups orchestrating nominations. Pick 10% of your membership and get the others to nominate them and you'll have a lot of people in the hat. To be sure these candidates will be in the lottery, they'll want to select people who aren't well respected outside the group....)
- breuleux 6y agoEh, there's a logic to it, I think. If you intend people to only nominate the people they know personally (because otherwise they are relaying their impression of a curated media image, or the opinion of someone else) then it's likely that people who have more than 50 (or maybe 100 or 200) nominations are being nominated by people that don't really know them. Some Twitch streamer with a thousand followers would have little problem getting 50 nominations by snapping their fingers, regardless of their qualifications. This being said, there's probably a better way.
- SomewhatLikely 6y agoClarifying your point because I didn't get it at first: parent is saying that discarding nominees who got more than 50 nominations is harmful.