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I’m still running a 2014 MacBook Air. It’s fast enough, but I do want a more powerful machine for video editing. Is there a Windows based machine that’s likely

by jasonv 6y ago

I’m still running a 2014 MacBook Air. It’s fast enough, but I do want a more powerful machine for video editing. Is there a Windows based machine that’s likely to still feel as new and solid after 6+ years as an aluminum bodied MacBook?

formercoder 6y ago
I think Lenovo has the best chassis build quality but still doesn’t quite compare to Apple
- jeffbee 6y ago
  I have a working, unblemished thinkpad X61 and I’ve never seen a metal MacBook that hasn’t been dropped and dented. Dropping a MacBook on its corner basically ruins it. Plastic is the right material for a laptop.
  - vladvasiliu 6y ago
    I don't know about that. My old MacBook Pro (non-retina unibody) was dropped on a corner and the most annoying consequence was that in order to change the SSD I would have to angle it just right. My current 2013 model does have its share of scratches and two small dents but it works as well as 6 years ago. I'd much rather have a dented metal case that stays together than a cracked plastic one.
    - jeffbee 6y ago
      The only cracked laptop I ever had was the titanium powerbook. Dropping a macbook on its corner tends to dent it in such a way that the lid can't completely close, which sucks a lot.
zitterbewegung 6y ago
Macbooks are pretty well known to have very little deck flex and general rigidity. Probably the closest you are going to get are Microsoft Surface Books but then the problem is the trackpad won't be as good at all.
michaelcampbell 6y ago
Unlikely, but how much of you wanting to keep a machine for 6 years is BECAUSE it's so expensive?
- jasonv 6y ago
  It was less than $2K. I'll refer you to the other thread trending today about a blogger who upgraded from the Macbook Air I have to a new Macbook Pro and doesn't like it. I also have Dell and HP equipment, and most of them have weird driver issues with the basic hardware after about 2 years. I don't want to live like that... I currently have an i7 Dell laptop that randomly disables the keyboard based on which WiFi network it's connected to. The other Dell I have spent its first two years of life re-installing the wrong SSD driver with every Windows update (when it crashed, I'd have to boot into safe mode and re-install the correct SSD driver that I kept on a thumb drive). So, yeah: Dell is out. Looking at other brands, and desktops.
- vladvasiliu 6y ago
  I would say it depends on one's usage. My daily driver is a late 2013 MBP 15" and the performance is more than enough for what I do (mostly sysadmin / light dev for work and Lightroom / Photoshop for my own time). As other comments have pointed out, a comparably specced PC is not that much cheaper and would be much more of a hassle. During those six and a half years I knew I could count on this machine and I never had any annoyances with it. If I had gotten a PC which was unlikely to last as long, I would have had to change it at least once, which means going through a period of not quite broken but not quite hassle-free either. And two PCs with the specs of my MBP would have cost more. I'm also OK with paying a premium to not have to deal with those issues (noise, screen sometimes not working, ports failing, keyboards dying, etc — all issues I've had with "pro-level" computers, mostly HP). There's also the fact that at the time a similar PC was extremely rare (maybe the X1?). I'm talking about a computer with thunderbolt, high resolution display, the ability to run a 4K display at 60Hz, fast SSD. Granted, all those are much more common today.
toast0 6y ago
For video editing, why not use a desktop? Hidden behind the monitor who cares what it looks like.
- asdff 6y ago
  Seriously. Even dropping $2k on a 16" MBP is going to be a waste compared to a desktop.
robotnikman 6y ago
As long as it has a Solid State Drive it will feel like new for many years A lot of manufacturers offer aluminum bodied laptops, though I'm kinda biased towards the feel of HP laptops

by jasonv 6y ago

formercoder 6y ago

I think Lenovo has the best chassis build quality but still doesn’t quite compare to Apple

jeffbee 6y ago
I have a working, unblemished thinkpad X61 and I’ve never seen a metal MacBook that hasn’t been dropped and dented. Dropping a MacBook on its corner basically ruins it. Plastic is the right material for a laptop.
- vladvasiliu 6y ago
  I don't know about that. My old MacBook Pro (non-retina unibody) was dropped on a corner and the most annoying consequence was that in order to change the SSD I would have to angle it just right. My current 2013 model does have its share of scratches and two small dents but it works as well as 6 years ago. I'd much rather have a dented metal case that stays together than a cracked plastic one.
  - jeffbee 6y ago
    The only cracked laptop I ever had was the titanium powerbook. Dropping a macbook on its corner tends to dent it in such a way that the lid can't completely close, which sucks a lot.

zitterbewegung 6y ago

Macbooks are pretty well known to have very little deck flex and general rigidity. Probably the closest you are going to get are Microsoft Surface Books but then the problem is the trackpad won't be as good at all.

michaelcampbell 6y ago

Unlikely, but how much of you wanting to keep a machine for 6 years is BECAUSE it's so expensive?

jasonv 6y ago
It was less than $2K. I'll refer you to the other thread trending today about a blogger who upgraded from the Macbook Air I have to a new Macbook Pro and doesn't like it. I also have Dell and HP equipment, and most of them have weird driver issues with the basic hardware after about 2 years. I don't want to live like that... I currently have an i7 Dell laptop that randomly disables the keyboard based on which WiFi network it's connected to. The other Dell I have spent its first two years of life re-installing the wrong SSD driver with every Windows update (when it crashed, I'd have to boot into safe mode and re-install the correct SSD driver that I kept on a thumb drive). So, yeah: Dell is out. Looking at other brands, and desktops.
vladvasiliu 6y ago
I would say it depends on one's usage. My daily driver is a late 2013 MBP 15" and the performance is more than enough for what I do (mostly sysadmin / light dev for work and Lightroom / Photoshop for my own time). As other comments have pointed out, a comparably specced PC is not that much cheaper and would be much more of a hassle. During those six and a half years I knew I could count on this machine and I never had any annoyances with it. If I had gotten a PC which was unlikely to last as long, I would have had to change it at least once, which means going through a period of not quite broken but not quite hassle-free either. And two PCs with the specs of my MBP would have cost more. I'm also OK with paying a premium to not have to deal with those issues (noise, screen sometimes not working, ports failing, keyboards dying, etc — all issues I've had with "pro-level" computers, mostly HP). There's also the fact that at the time a similar PC was extremely rare (maybe the X1?). I'm talking about a computer with thunderbolt, high resolution display, the ability to run a 4K display at 60Hz, fast SSD. Granted, all those are much more common today.

toast0 6y ago

For video editing, why not use a desktop? Hidden behind the monitor who cares what it looks like.

asdff 6y ago
Seriously. Even dropping $2k on a 16" MBP is going to be a waste compared to a desktop.

robotnikman 6y ago

As long as it has a Solid State Drive it will feel like new for many years A lot of manufacturers offer aluminum bodied laptops, though I'm kinda biased towards the feel of HP laptops