12 ms·

Keivan doesn’t want an apology. Keivan only wants credit.

wayneftw 6y ago
Did Keivan credit Microsoft for every free or open source tool, service or framework of theirs that he used during his career? And credit for what? Unoriginal ideas that have been around forever? They didn't even build WinGet in the same language as AppGet! You can see the rest of my response to the top comment here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23377936 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23377936
- jstanley 6y ago
  > Did Keivan credit Microsoft for every free or open source tool, service or framework of theirs that he used during his career? Regardless of that, I'm guessing he didn't engage them in dishonest attempts to hire them just to learn more about their ideas and then walk away.
  - wayneftw 6y ago
    > Regardless of that... I was replying to someone who only regarded the point of the credit. > I'm guessing he didn't engage them in dishonest attempts to hire them just to learn more about their ideas and then walk away ...allegedly. The onus of evidence is on you. Until then, we can safely assume cock-up before conspiracy. Many, many big companies don't call you back after an interview and we all know this.
    - onemoresoop 6y ago
      This was no regular interview, it’s quite dishonest of you to say that. Second, be honest; do you have any stake in the game yourself? Do you work for microsoft?
      - dang 6y ago
        That crosses into personal attack and you can't do that on HN. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.
      - deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
      - wayneftw 6y ago
        > This was no regular interview, it’s quite dishonest of you to say that. How so? It was an interview for him to bring AppGet in-house to Microsoft. That's normal software business. Honestly, based on what this Keivan said - I think he scared Microsoft away with his demands that they take the project only in a direction that he approves of. And when they went away, they took some of the most banal ideas, ideas that have been done a thousand times in other projects and used them in their own - which they built in a completely different programming language with exception to the very, very common YAML configuration. > Second, be honest; do you have any stake in the game yourself? Do you work for microsoft? Nope. People who disagree are simply wrong and I'm attempting to correct their ill-formed point of view. Meanwhile, you're shitting up the comments with this trashy ad hominem insinuation of shilling. It's against the rules and you should stop doing it - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Did Keivan credit Microsoft for every free or open source tool, service or framework of theirs that he used during his career? And credit for what? Unoriginal ideas that have been around forever? They didn't even build WinGet in the same language as AppGet! You can see the rest of my response to the top comment here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23377936 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23377936

jstanley 6y ago
> Did Keivan credit Microsoft for every free or open source tool, service or framework of theirs that he used during his career? Regardless of that, I'm guessing he didn't engage them in dishonest attempts to hire them just to learn more about their ideas and then walk away.
- wayneftw 6y ago
  > Regardless of that... I was replying to someone who only regarded the point of the credit. > I'm guessing he didn't engage them in dishonest attempts to hire them just to learn more about their ideas and then walk away ...allegedly. The onus of evidence is on you. Until then, we can safely assume cock-up before conspiracy. Many, many big companies don't call you back after an interview and we all know this.
  - onemoresoop 6y ago
    This was no regular interview, it’s quite dishonest of you to say that. Second, be honest; do you have any stake in the game yourself? Do you work for microsoft?
    - dang 6y ago
      That crosses into personal attack and you can't do that on HN. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
    - wayneftw 6y ago
      > This was no regular interview, it’s quite dishonest of you to say that. How so? It was an interview for him to bring AppGet in-house to Microsoft. That's normal software business. Honestly, based on what this Keivan said - I think he scared Microsoft away with his demands that they take the project only in a direction that he approves of. And when they went away, they took some of the most banal ideas, ideas that have been done a thousand times in other projects and used them in their own - which they built in a completely different programming language with exception to the very, very common YAML configuration. > Second, be honest; do you have any stake in the game yourself? Do you work for microsoft? Nope. People who disagree are simply wrong and I'm attempting to correct their ill-formed point of view. Meanwhile, you're shitting up the comments with this trashy ad hominem insinuation of shilling. It's against the rules and you should stop doing it - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html