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Hopefully you can do your RAM upgrade by yourself. In the end it's a "Pro" machine no ?
by edhelas 6y ago
Hopefully you can do your RAM upgrade by yourself. In the end it's a "Pro" machine no ?
- timw4mail 6y agoNope. Only the Mac Pro has upgradable RAM at this point. Edit: The Mac Mini does as well, but apple doesn't consider it 'user-upgradable'.
- koolba 6y agoDoes Apple let you upgrade anything in their laptops anymore? I thought everything was soldered to the main board for years now.
- manaskarekar 6y agoThe last partially upgradable machines were the 2015 Macbook Pros and Airs. You could upgrade the nvme ssd. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/upgrading-2013-2014-macbook-pro-ssd-to-m-2-nvme.2034976/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/upgrading-2013-2014-mac...
- chrisseaton 6y ago> Hopefully you can do your RAM upgrade by yourself. No unfortunately this isn't a user-replaceable part in most modern MacBooks. > In the end it's a "Pro" machine no ? Not sure what that has to do with it? Most professionals don't want to be changing their RAM.
- jonplackett 6y agoI think it's just that most professionals have given up expecting to be able to change their RAM.
- mopsi 6y agoMost professionals aren't using Apple in the first place. The world runs on Windows desktop PCs, and business-oriented models from major vendors like HP are really easy to work on: can replace RAM, HDD or power supply in a minute or two and without any tools. Instruction manuals are simple, clear and well illustrated. if you can tie shoelaces, you can replace RAM.
- saagarjha 6y ago> Most professionals aren't using Apple in the first place. Depends on the field and location.
- jonplackett 6y agoI work in an ad agency with 200 people. Every single professional has a Mac. Basically creative fields prefer macs.
- nsomaru 6y agoNah. Unscrewing a cover and popping up some ram is not a “professional” task. It’s something anyone with passing familiarity could achieve. Shove your ram in some obscure place so the owner can’t access it, now you need a professional if simply to offset the risk something goes wrong while you’re fiddling. User serviceable parts are just not an Apple priority.
- saagarjha 6y agoThis is not a technique for replacing RAM on Apple’s current computers.
- layoutIfNeeded 6y agoLOL! You haven't seen the insides of recent Macs (read: since 2010), have you? Everything is soldered to the motherboard, the battery is glued to the case, etc. They're the pinnacle of non-repairability.
- syshum 6y agoIt always makes me laugh when Apple (and their fans) talk about how Environmentally Friendly Apple is... Reduce and Reuse is the best way to help pollution, yet Apple is known, famous for Planned Obsolescence and non-repairability you can not be Environmentally Friendly and maintain the only solution to any problem is to just toss it and buy a new one
- Bud 6y agoThere is no "planned obsolescence" from Apple, and btw, that phrase is not capitalized in English. There is a popular myth among the lazy-minded about this, but the fact is that Apple's hardware lasts a lot longer, and is intentionally supported for a lot longer, than competing hardware. This is true for Macs as well as iOS devices. If Apple is "planning" for anything, it's for their stuff to last a lot longer than others' stuff, not the opposite.
- gambiting 6y agoNot everything has to be black and white. Apple can be supporting old hardware for very long time, much longer than any other manufacturer, and yet simulatiously be shit at making sure their hardware is actually repairable if it does break down. Luis Rossman had a very good series of videos on this, consider this for instance - a chip that controls USB-C charging used to be just a regular chip made by some chinese company, you could order them by yourself for like $0.10 each, a tray full of chips would cost you few dollars at most. So as he runs a repair business, and those chips fail relatively frequently for <reasons>, he could repair a dead macbook for like $50-100(practically charging just for his time to take the chip out and put a new one in). But Apple doesn't like that - so they went to that manufacturer and specifially asked for that chip to be modified, so that it only works with their machines, and asked that they are the only buyer of that chip. So now if your macbook dies because this chip failed, you cannot replace it with a new $0.10 chip - you need to buy a whole new $1000 motherboard from Apple. This is not planned obsolescence - this is going out of your way to make the repairs harder. I can understand when certain decisions are made for engineering reasons(like say, having the ram soldered on), but this kind of thing when Apple goes to the manufacturer and asks for a version specific only to them so that no one else can buy it, ever - that's just anti-consumer, and I hope the hand of the law will come on them super hard due to this.
- grishka 6y agoBack when you could upgrade the RAM yourself, everyone did just that. I bought a Mac Mini with 2 GB in 2011 and maxed it out to 8 for what felt like pocket change. Apparently, Apple didn't quite like people bypassing its ridiculous markups altogether.
- akerro 6y agoI had iMac in ~2009 had to do virtualisation work, so tried to upgrade RAM, ordered a few RAMs and none of them worked, iMac refused to boot. Gave up on this, never used Apple products again... too much hassle and too much lockdown from manufacturer.
- tonyedgecombe 6y agoI think you can still do that with the current Mac Mini although it is a fiddly job.
- asdff 6y agoibook g4 could do it with your fingernails.
- tonyedgecombe 6y agoYes but it weighed twice as much as the current model.
- grishka 6y agoI'd be okay with a 2 kg laptop if that would mean I could upgrade most of its components.
- tonyedgecombe 6y agoJudging by what people buy it seems you are in a minority.
- michaelcampbell 6y agoNo. "Pro" to Apple means expensive and showy, not upgradeable.
- bluedino 6y agoThe majority of thin/light laptops sold today have soldered memory, it's not just Apple.
- freehunter 6y agoCan we be done with this “real professionals” meme? It’s been beating a dead horse for years and at this point it’s starting to sound like trolling.
- chongli 6y agoHave you seen the motherboard of a recent MacBook/Pro? They’re tiny. Having user replaceable RAM would make them far larger which would require compromises in other areas. Judging by the popularity of MacBooks, people don’t want those compromises.