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> I don't have family but I do have a lot of friends over there in the US. Several of them used to have your nonchalant view of "all this won't affect me". None

> I don't have family but I do have a lot of friends over there in the US. Several of them used to have your nonchalant view of "all this won't affect me". None of them have it today anymore. One is leaving the US. I don't know what to tell you then. Consider getting more friends in the US if you want a realistic view of the country. > Oof. This is on the same level as hearing "my SO is supposed to hit me when I'm wrong". Media is supposed to be neutral and bring you the facts. Your media clearly doesn't do that, but it's certainly not supposed to be that way. No, news is supposed to be neutral. And again: if you're only getting one perspective, you're not getting others. It sounds like you've already heard all you want to. > You're trying to "keep things in perspective" because you think you're arguing with people who believe you're North Korea. If I believed that, I wouldn't be wasting my time arguing, because by that point it would be too late. Things are really bad for the US right now, and they're headed for worse. You can keep arguing about exactly how bad it is, or you can start to think about how you can help prevent them from getting worse. I think a key sign of a successful society is when people are free to (and do) protest issues that are not nearly as serious as they think they are. It's not a sign of failure, it's a sign of success. If you step out of the media bubble, you might realize COVID-19, police brutality, and racism aren't nearly as bad as portrayed--at least in the vast majority of areas. But don't let that compromise your view.

scrollaway 6y ago
> Consider getting more friends in the US if you want a realistic view of the country. I certainly lost contact with some people who started getting increasingly angry at everyone and everything. Lashing out on others like the world is out to get them. I'm sure if I kept in touch they'd give me their ever-so-rosy point of view on how well America is doing right now but it doesn't take a genius to figure out their point of view is an illusion they barely believe themselves. I'm going to stop arguing now because you're starting to say things that are blatantly wrong and it feels like you're baiting me into a bigger argument than this is worth. I'm just offering you a perspective from another corner of the globe, that isn't biased by your media you so proudly declare is supposed to be divisive. You're free to ignore it. You're free to think you're better-informed by consuming twice as much clickbaity media rather than half as much neutral media. I don't gain anything by correcting you, after all.
- _hilro 6y ago
  Dude, your comments have turned into frantic rantings. Step away, take a breath. OP is making nuanced points. You're resorting to outlandish hyperbole. Take a break from the internet.
IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
I agree. The fact is that all the problems highlighted (C19, police etc) got magnified by a bloodthirsty media looking for clicks. Outside of big cities covid has been a nonfactor and the numbers are convincing especially when you take nursing homes out if the equation. There is plenty of research conclusively stating that police racism is behind us (see ex. research paper by black harvard PHD, widely cited). Even the riots in NYC were mild considering what is happening in cities like PHI. So yes, there are indeed parts where things are not great PHI, NYC covid etc, but those are outliers. Yet the media ia using those examples and projecting it over an entire countey. Thats wrong and also a lie

scrollaway 6y ago

> Consider getting more friends in the US if you want a realistic view of the country. I certainly lost contact with some people who started getting increasingly angry at everyone and everything. Lashing out on others like the world is out to get them. I'm sure if I kept in touch they'd give me their ever-so-rosy point of view on how well America is doing right now but it doesn't take a genius to figure out their point of view is an illusion they barely believe themselves. I'm going to stop arguing now because you're starting to say things that are blatantly wrong and it feels like you're baiting me into a bigger argument than this is worth. I'm just offering you a perspective from another corner of the globe, that isn't biased by your media you so proudly declare is supposed to be divisive. You're free to ignore it. You're free to think you're better-informed by consuming twice as much clickbaity media rather than half as much neutral media. I don't gain anything by correcting you, after all.

_hilro 6y ago
Dude, your comments have turned into frantic rantings. Step away, take a breath. OP is making nuanced points. You're resorting to outlandish hyperbole. Take a break from the internet.

IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago

I agree. The fact is that all the problems highlighted (C19, police etc) got magnified by a bloodthirsty media looking for clicks. Outside of big cities covid has been a nonfactor and the numbers are convincing especially when you take nursing homes out if the equation. There is plenty of research conclusively stating that police racism is behind us (see ex. research paper by black harvard PHD, widely cited). Even the riots in NYC were mild considering what is happening in cities like PHI. So yes, there are indeed parts where things are not great PHI, NYC covid etc, but those are outliers. Yet the media ia using those examples and projecting it over an entire countey. Thats wrong and also a lie