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Consider looking at the CNN reporting team that was arrested live on television without reason? It's not a good sign if media is being censored like that.

by xenyal 6y ago

moduspol 6y ago
True. Media coverage of these protests has been basically a blackout. We've heard almost nothing. C'mon. Of course they shouldn't have been arrested, but it's not some systemic suppression.
- nl 6y ago
  There are at least 20 cases of credentialed journalists being attacked or arrested by police in the last 48 hours. While a few of these may have been mistaken identity, many weren't. https://twitter.com/N_Waters89/status/1267037176614838272 https://twitter.com/N_Waters89/status/1267037176614838272
aww_dang 6y ago
People can pick and choose where they stand on this incident or perhaps even choose not to participate in the partisan dialectic. I'd just like to point out that the opposing view on that incident would characterize it as exactly the kind of sensationalized coverage which the above poster could be referring to. One narrative suggests that it was staged. Worth looking at it from both sides. As we discuss this, let's not steam roll past those concerns. My personal view is that there's more than a little BS flying from all angles. CNN wouldn't be what I consider hard hitting or informative journalism. I don't know what really happened and I can't jump to any conclusions. Thanks.
- adjkant 6y ago
  See other threads, but this is not an isolated incident. Trying to argue that it was staged seems incredibly disingenuous and an unreasonable standard of proof given the widespread occurrences of this and police brutality in the past 48 hours. https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1266929927116468225 https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/12669299271164682...
  - aww_dang 6y ago
    Just to be explicit, I don't take sides, I'm not interested in advancing any argument and I am skeptical of most claims. This goes doubly so for the extreme partisan takes, which are generally unreasonable. I'm sorry this disclaimer is seemingly necessary. My personal views are secondary to the point of my comment, which was: Perhaps we should consider both sides?
    - nl 6y ago
      The interesting thing about these claims is that in many there are multiple film views of the same incident, and in the CNN case there was an apology issued. What exactly are you skeptical about?
      - aww_dang 6y ago
        If you must pry, I'll say that CNN (a highly partisan outlet) has every incentive to have their reporter arrested. I'll also say that arresting a journalist is out of line and that the police could have let it ride. However no one is perfect, certainly not myself. Therefore I have little room to pass judgement upon police officers who are clearly under more than a little bit of stress. Similarly, I can't condemn the reporter even if he is indeed (which I can't know with certainty) advancing his career in a very cynical way. For me I'm comfortable just leaving it as an unknown instead of attempting to take sides or claiming an authoritative understanding of the event. Moral grandstanding for either claim would be a further leap too far for me personally. However you are welcome to argue your opinion with someone else. I just can't do that in good faith. Thanks for understanding.
        nl 6y ago
        I hadn't actually seen the CNN incident until I saw it via the Australian journalist who were arrested. It made quite an impact here - and while you seem to think it's journalist trying to get ahead in their careers in this case that doesn't make sense. Being arrested makes it more difficult for foreign journalists to re-enter the US which has a huge negative impact on their job. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/george-floyd-riots-us-journalists-beaten-arrested-shot-at-maimed-for-life/news-story/1ef2342aabd12b65652636e37103226e https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/world/north-ame...

Consider looking at the CNN reporting team that was arrested live on television without reason? It's not a good sign if media is being censored like that.

by xenyal 6y ago

Consider looking at the CNN reporting team that was arrested live on television without reason? It's not a good sign if media is being censored like that.

moduspol 6y ago

True. Media coverage of these protests has been basically a blackout. We've heard almost nothing. C'mon. Of course they shouldn't have been arrested, but it's not some systemic suppression.

nl 6y ago
There are at least 20 cases of credentialed journalists being attacked or arrested by police in the last 48 hours. While a few of these may have been mistaken identity, many weren't. https://twitter.com/N_Waters89/status/1267037176614838272 https://twitter.com/N_Waters89/status/1267037176614838272

aww_dang 6y ago

People can pick and choose where they stand on this incident or perhaps even choose not to participate in the partisan dialectic. I'd just like to point out that the opposing view on that incident would characterize it as exactly the kind of sensationalized coverage which the above poster could be referring to. One narrative suggests that it was staged. Worth looking at it from both sides. As we discuss this, let's not steam roll past those concerns. My personal view is that there's more than a little BS flying from all angles. CNN wouldn't be what I consider hard hitting or informative journalism. I don't know what really happened and I can't jump to any conclusions. Thanks.

adjkant 6y ago
See other threads, but this is not an isolated incident. Trying to argue that it was staged seems incredibly disingenuous and an unreasonable standard of proof given the widespread occurrences of this and police brutality in the past 48 hours. https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1266929927116468225 https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/12669299271164682...
- aww_dang 6y ago
  Just to be explicit, I don't take sides, I'm not interested in advancing any argument and I am skeptical of most claims. This goes doubly so for the extreme partisan takes, which are generally unreasonable. I'm sorry this disclaimer is seemingly necessary. My personal views are secondary to the point of my comment, which was: Perhaps we should consider both sides?
  - nl 6y ago
    The interesting thing about these claims is that in many there are multiple film views of the same incident, and in the CNN case there was an apology issued. What exactly are you skeptical about?
    - aww_dang 6y ago
      If you must pry, I'll say that CNN (a highly partisan outlet) has every incentive to have their reporter arrested. I'll also say that arresting a journalist is out of line and that the police could have let it ride. However no one is perfect, certainly not myself. Therefore I have little room to pass judgement upon police officers who are clearly under more than a little bit of stress. Similarly, I can't condemn the reporter even if he is indeed (which I can't know with certainty) advancing his career in a very cynical way. For me I'm comfortable just leaving it as an unknown instead of attempting to take sides or claiming an authoritative understanding of the event. Moral grandstanding for either claim would be a further leap too far for me personally. However you are welcome to argue your opinion with someone else. I just can't do that in good faith. Thanks for understanding.
      - nl 6y ago
        I hadn't actually seen the CNN incident until I saw it via the Australian journalist who were arrested. It made quite an impact here - and while you seem to think it's journalist trying to get ahead in their careers in this case that doesn't make sense. Being arrested makes it more difficult for foreign journalists to re-enter the US which has a huge negative impact on their job. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/george-floyd-riots-us-journalists-beaten-arrested-shot-at-maimed-for-life/news-story/1ef2342aabd12b65652636e37103226e https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/world/north-ame...