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I think the freedom to pursue intellectual curiosity is a thing which universities offer almost unconditional unlike jobs. This is a perk that not a lot of jobs
by mvind 6y ago
I think the freedom to pursue intellectual curiosity is a thing which universities offer almost unconditional unlike jobs. This is a perk that not a lot of jobs in the real world offers. Almost nowhere else in a person's life are you given such an opportunity to invest in ones interests.
But I'm biased towards going to uni, since I live in Denmark where I get paid monthly for going to university.
- clarry 6y agoYeah it depends on a lot of things. Maybe university isn't where your interests are, but you kinda need a degree and a job? I see lots of students whose life revolves around making it through courses and collecting ECTS points instead of really pursuing their interests..
- mvind 6y agoOh for sure! You can't ignore the fact that having a degree is great to fall back on. But as you go closer towards research those people start falling off.
- oleks 6y agoYou are not paid to go the university in Denmark. You are awarded credits by the government, and it is up to you to do something sensible with those credits. Don't waste them on needless courses! Learn that which will yield you (and the Danish government) the greatest benefits throughout the rest of your life.
- henrikeh 6y agoIt reads a little like your are misunderstanding what is meant by “paid to go to university”. Danish citizens receive a grant called “SU” (Statens uddannelsesstøtte), which basically is a payment from the government for being enrolled in education. It is meant to be spend on food, rent, living, books etc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_loans_in_Denmark https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_loans_in_Denmark
- falkaer 6y agoYou are given money (5.435 dkk monthly after tax) for attending university in Denmark and pay no tuition. This is in stark contrast to most other countries.
- heresie-dabord 6y ago> I live in Denmark where I get paid monthly for going to university You are, of course, doubly fortunate. > the freedom to pursue intellectual curiosity is a thing which universities offer almost unconditional unlike jobs The hypothetical awakening of a person's intelligence is a battle against much more dominant social conditioning. And then students self-select for narrowness of perspective in a programme. As you note, the job market and consumerism are fatal stages of later conformity. There is always the chance that some discussion or chance meeting will awaken a mind. But it seems far too accidental, assuming a society with libraries and recognised need for genuine public discourse. In many economies, university isn't unconditional. It has become so expensive in some cases that graduates carry heavy debt for decades. Does a person need to go to university? I would say that a person is better off reading at the library and seeking serious discussion rather than seeking credential-rewards in the edu-bubble. The shoddy mess should be rebuilt to make it a better deal. On-line learning is the only way I can see this happening.
- GoblinSlayer 6y agoTo go to STEM a person shouldn't be very social to begin with, so social conditioning traditionally doesn't register with them as a problem.
- kaybe 6y agoFor many of us, when we went to STEM we finally found our tribe and became social as hell.
- cguess 6y agoLiking science or math should require you to be awkward and unsocial? What... the hell.... are you talking about?
- selimthegrim 6y agoWhat exactly do you think a department chair does at an R1 university all day, hang out on Slack?