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Anonymous targets police and Trump administration

68 points by Farbodkhz 6y ago

sdmike1 6y ago
After LulzSec was broken up they have had no teeth. Just a bunch of script kiddies these days :P
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  I wouldn't be so sure. I know a lot of people that do have quite some skills but just weren't really motivated.
  - BLKNSLVR 6y ago
    Definitely. If anything was true of Anonymous it was that it's membership was purely self-selected based on the specific 'op' being carried out. The current climate is ripe for exploitation by nation states who may revel in the US' woes.
- ASalazarMX 6y ago
  Even during the LulzSec saga Anonymous mostly did DDOSs and website defacing, with sporadic high-level hacks, but not all has to be hacking. Given the amorphous nature of the movement, even a lowly clerk/technician/etc. could leak evidence if they sympathize. That being said, following the antics of LulzSec was my favorite part of 2011 by far.
SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
I wonder if there would be any overlap with the DOJ considering antifa as a terrorist org? If that happens and there was overlap, there oils be more resources put at unmasking NSA intercepts.
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  In any case, the DOJ considering Antifa as well as a potential consideration of Anonymous as a terrorist organization is pretty ridiculous and toothless, as they are both anarchist affiliations/ideas and not organizations in any way I know of, really. So I think they're gonna have a pretty hard time proving that anyone is part of "The Antifa Organization" just like it's impossible to prove that someone is part of "The Anonymous Organization". There is no hierarchy, no organized structure. The only way it could ever be applied would be to consider people with a given set of ideas and aesthetics terrorists. Which would mean that there is a lot of overlap, as Anonymous is essentially based upon the idea of violent antifascism as far it's aesthetics and there is a ton of overlap between the dominant ideologies of Anonymous and Antifa (against state power, direct action, decentralized action, anti-censorship, violence against those you believe are a threat including organic censorship, etc...) In any case, it's very bad for everyone.
  - baybal2 6y ago
    > In any case, the DOJ considering Antifa as well as a potential consideration of Anonymous as a terrorist organization is pretty ridiculous and toothless, as they are both anarchist affiliations/ideas and not organizations in any way I know of, really. So was the El Caeda
    - sudosysgen 6y ago
      Absolutely not. Al Qaeda is not anarchist, they have a strict hierarchy, a chain of command, membership lists, payrolls, leaders and so on. Al Qaeda is also not an ideology but a formal organization, unlike antifascism. There is absolutely no comparison you can make between Al Qaeda and Antifa or Anonymous.
      - baybal2 6y ago
        > Absolutely not. Al Qaeda is not anarchist, they have a strict hierarchy, a chain of command, membership lists, payrolls, leaders and so on. Al Qaeda is also not an ideology but a formal organization, Believe people more.
_bxg1 6y ago
> The message was followed by what was suspected to be a Distributed Denial of Service (DDOS) attack on the Minneapolis Police Website https://xkcd.com/932/ https://xkcd.com/932/

68 points by Farbodkhz 6y ago

sdmike1 6y ago

After LulzSec was broken up they have had no teeth. Just a bunch of script kiddies these days :P

sudosysgen 6y ago
I wouldn't be so sure. I know a lot of people that do have quite some skills but just weren't really motivated.
- BLKNSLVR 6y ago
  Definitely. If anything was true of Anonymous it was that it's membership was purely self-selected based on the specific 'op' being carried out. The current climate is ripe for exploitation by nation states who may revel in the US' woes.
ASalazarMX 6y ago
Even during the LulzSec saga Anonymous mostly did DDOSs and website defacing, with sporadic high-level hacks, but not all has to be hacking. Given the amorphous nature of the movement, even a lowly clerk/technician/etc. could leak evidence if they sympathize. That being said, following the antics of LulzSec was my favorite part of 2011 by far.

SV_BubbleTime 6y ago

I wonder if there would be any overlap with the DOJ considering antifa as a terrorist org? If that happens and there was overlap, there oils be more resources put at unmasking NSA intercepts.

sudosysgen 6y ago
In any case, the DOJ considering Antifa as well as a potential consideration of Anonymous as a terrorist organization is pretty ridiculous and toothless, as they are both anarchist affiliations/ideas and not organizations in any way I know of, really. So I think they're gonna have a pretty hard time proving that anyone is part of "The Antifa Organization" just like it's impossible to prove that someone is part of "The Anonymous Organization". There is no hierarchy, no organized structure. The only way it could ever be applied would be to consider people with a given set of ideas and aesthetics terrorists. Which would mean that there is a lot of overlap, as Anonymous is essentially based upon the idea of violent antifascism as far it's aesthetics and there is a ton of overlap between the dominant ideologies of Anonymous and Antifa (against state power, direct action, decentralized action, anti-censorship, violence against those you believe are a threat including organic censorship, etc...) In any case, it's very bad for everyone.
- baybal2 6y ago
  > In any case, the DOJ considering Antifa as well as a potential consideration of Anonymous as a terrorist organization is pretty ridiculous and toothless, as they are both anarchist affiliations/ideas and not organizations in any way I know of, really. So was the El Caeda
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    Absolutely not. Al Qaeda is not anarchist, they have a strict hierarchy, a chain of command, membership lists, payrolls, leaders and so on. Al Qaeda is also not an ideology but a formal organization, unlike antifascism. There is absolutely no comparison you can make between Al Qaeda and Antifa or Anonymous.
    - baybal2 6y ago
      > Absolutely not. Al Qaeda is not anarchist, they have a strict hierarchy, a chain of command, membership lists, payrolls, leaders and so on. Al Qaeda is also not an ideology but a formal organization, Believe people more.

_bxg1 6y ago

> The message was followed by what was suspected to be a Distributed Denial of Service (DDOS) attack on the Minneapolis Police Website https://xkcd.com/932/ https://xkcd.com/932/