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6 paragraphs, 0 answers as to whether George Floyd deserved the form of justice you would extend to his murders or why he got an extrajudicial execution instead

6 paragraphs, 0 answers as to whether George Floyd deserved the form of justice you would extend to his murders or why he got an extrajudicial execution instead. If there weren't riots, the topic would be whether to charge the direct murderer. Because of the riots, the discussion has shifted to charging his accomplices. This is progress, but not enough progress. And yes, I definitely want to see them convicted. If there was a video of me preventing an EMT from checking a man's pulse while my co-worker choked him to death for 8 minutes, the last 3 of which the victim was unresponsive for, I wholeheartedly believe I would be convicted of being an accessory to murder. I want the same for these cops. This isn't a grey area where the person could reasonably be innocent, we have the video of an unresponsive man being executed in broad daylight.

tal8d 6y ago
huh, I've never seen someone try to wave a bloody shirt quite like that. Well I don't want to make you count too many sentences before you get to my magic chant: I disavow all non-people-of-color (including police officers, soldiers, census takers, BBC licence fee collectors - especially those with internalized racism) and, in response to their atrocities, now identify as a left handed 86 year old black lesbian woman+. You are baying for blood, not seeking justice. You can't even defend it with the infamously flexible ethics of utilitarianism, because the strategy has been employed numerous times - and it always results in the utter ruination of those that pursued it. Ask Zarqawi. Name one example of this strategy succeeding, I'm genuinely curious - because the only ones I can think of involve colonial subjugation tactics that ultimately resulted in self destruction.
- blotter_paper 6y ago
  >Name one example of this strategy succeeding Uhm... when the 3rd precinct got burned down and George Floyd's murderer faced charges the next day? Cops don't normally face charges for murdering black men in broad daylight, so I don't take the timing of arson and charges as coincidence.
  - tal8d 6y ago
    Have you got an actual example? I don't even need to get into the race statistics with regard to police brutality, because the charges aren't even close to settling the matter - and you know it, you've already declared them murderers.
    - blotter_paper 6y ago
      >Have you got an actual example? Of a cop murdering a black man in broad daylight and not getting charged for it? Hell, here's an example I just pulled up for someone else of a 12 year old black kid being murdered while he played airsoft in the park[0], the cop faced no charges and was subsequently hired by another police department in the same state. It's like paedophile priests getting shuffled around by the Catholics, absolutely absurd. [0]: http://archive.is/jDQv3 http://archive.is/jDQv3
      - tal8d 6y ago
        > > > You are baying for blood, not seeking justice. You can't even defend it with the infamously flexible ethics of utilitarianism, because the strategy has been employed numerous times - and it always results in the utter ruination of those that pursued it. Ask Zarqawi. Name one example of this strategy succeeding, I'm genuinely curious - because the only ones I can think of involve colonial subjugation tactics that ultimately resulted in self destruction. > > Have you got an actual example? > Of a cop murdering a black man in broad daylight and not getting charged for it? Are you deliberately obtuse? Because if it isn't deliberate then we may have discovered why you think burning down a city is a good idea.
        blotter_paper 6y ago
        I had named an example, the one which just happened. Reading that question sandwiched between my last sentence and your next one I was legitimately unsure what you were asking. Therefore I made it clear which question I erred on the side of you asking, and proceeded to answer. Please consider considering your own lack of clarity in communication before insulting others in the future. You want another example of riots leading to change? The Civil Rights Act of 1968 was signed into law during a storm of riots that had broken out following the assassination of MLK.
asdfgtrewq 6y ago
Did you read the autopsy report? Criminal died of over dose of drugs in his system and condition of his heart. His heart condition reflects his lifestyle. Lack of oxygen was not at all the cause of death.

tal8d 6y ago

huh, I've never seen someone try to wave a bloody shirt quite like that. Well I don't want to make you count too many sentences before you get to my magic chant: I disavow all non-people-of-color (including police officers, soldiers, census takers, BBC licence fee collectors - especially those with internalized racism) and, in response to their atrocities, now identify as a left handed 86 year old black lesbian woman+. You are baying for blood, not seeking justice. You can't even defend it with the infamously flexible ethics of utilitarianism, because the strategy has been employed numerous times - and it always results in the utter ruination of those that pursued it. Ask Zarqawi. Name one example of this strategy succeeding, I'm genuinely curious - because the only ones I can think of involve colonial subjugation tactics that ultimately resulted in self destruction.

blotter_paper 6y ago
>Name one example of this strategy succeeding Uhm... when the 3rd precinct got burned down and George Floyd's murderer faced charges the next day? Cops don't normally face charges for murdering black men in broad daylight, so I don't take the timing of arson and charges as coincidence.
- tal8d 6y ago
  Have you got an actual example? I don't even need to get into the race statistics with regard to police brutality, because the charges aren't even close to settling the matter - and you know it, you've already declared them murderers.
  - blotter_paper 6y ago
    >Have you got an actual example? Of a cop murdering a black man in broad daylight and not getting charged for it? Hell, here's an example I just pulled up for someone else of a 12 year old black kid being murdered while he played airsoft in the park[0], the cop faced no charges and was subsequently hired by another police department in the same state. It's like paedophile priests getting shuffled around by the Catholics, absolutely absurd. [0]: http://archive.is/jDQv3 http://archive.is/jDQv3
    - tal8d 6y ago
      > > > You are baying for blood, not seeking justice. You can't even defend it with the infamously flexible ethics of utilitarianism, because the strategy has been employed numerous times - and it always results in the utter ruination of those that pursued it. Ask Zarqawi. Name one example of this strategy succeeding, I'm genuinely curious - because the only ones I can think of involve colonial subjugation tactics that ultimately resulted in self destruction. > > Have you got an actual example? > Of a cop murdering a black man in broad daylight and not getting charged for it? Are you deliberately obtuse? Because if it isn't deliberate then we may have discovered why you think burning down a city is a good idea.
      - blotter_paper 6y ago
        I had named an example, the one which just happened. Reading that question sandwiched between my last sentence and your next one I was legitimately unsure what you were asking. Therefore I made it clear which question I erred on the side of you asking, and proceeded to answer. Please consider considering your own lack of clarity in communication before insulting others in the future. You want another example of riots leading to change? The Civil Rights Act of 1968 was signed into law during a storm of riots that had broken out following the assassination of MLK.

asdfgtrewq 6y ago

Did you read the autopsy report? Criminal died of over dose of drugs in his system and condition of his heart. His heart condition reflects his lifestyle. Lack of oxygen was not at all the cause of death.