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This post was number one on HN. Now it’s nowhere to be found on HN’s pages unless you search for it. I happen to remember the posters handle and was able to dig

This post was number one on HN. Now it’s nowhere to be found on HN’s pages unless you search for it. I happen to remember the posters handle and was able to dig up the post. The post is not even flagged back so am curious why did it disappear?

detaro 6y ago
there's a scale to a submission being flagged (depending on the number of flags relative to other activity on the post), and they affect ranking before the "[flagged]" mark appears - I assume that's what happened. You can email the mods and ask if they'll remove the ranking penalty through the contact link in the footer.
pbourke 6y ago
It's been flagged to oblivion so as not to pierce HN's tender bubble. Should have mentioned which JS framework was used to build the site so the post would stay on the front page.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Exactly. HN caring more about wanting government to force Apple to allow side loading than police misconduct shows why you basically need rioting to make people pay attention. A football player kneeling peacefully as a stand against police misconduct and being called a son of a bitch by the President doesn’t get a peep from HN. People start rioting gets attention.
- h3cate 6y ago
  Haha sadly, there's no JS. I would load vue though if that meant they wouldn't bury the thread..
- rsynnott 6y ago
  Even better, it should have been implemented in rust. HN’s rust fixation (I get it, I like rust, but...) and aversion to anything involving society would have been held in perfect balance.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  Does every website need to be an activist website? Seems redundant.
h3cate 6y ago
Haha wow I wouldn't of expected that from hn! It's bought me time to fix the site so I don't mind too much but this only reinforces my belief in the need for the site. It's too easy for information to be hidden on the web
pas 6y ago
alas I have no solution, just a workaround use https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/
Balgair 6y ago
Try: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active It's number 1 there right now. I typically use the /active site instead of the homepage as I mostly come here for the discussion sections anyway. The https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists page is generally a great resource for HN.
dang 6y ago
Users flagged it. That's usually the reason.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  Yeah, people forget that not literally every website needs to be an activist forum.
  - h3cate 6y ago
    Far from it. The internet should be the inclusive society that we seem to be unable to attain in the real world.
    - dang 6y ago
      I agree with that and wrote something similar in a little essay about HN recently. The challenge is how to get there. I don't think we can flamewar our way to peace on the internet.
- nojvek 6y ago
  Not sure why it was flagged but I use hn.algolia.com and it was one of the top links. I upvoted it. The police are making the situation worse and people need to know they are no longer the police who are their to protect them but the police who are abusing their power and worse than terrorists. This issue is way more important than SpaceX launch. It could mean we don’t have the next black Astronaut, or the next minority space engineer, or the next minority Elon Musk. Because a minor police encounter would have led to their death.
  - dang 6y ago
    There's no question that it's more important. Of course it is more important than basically everything on HN's front page. For example, HN had a front-page story yesterday about whether the French adopted vinaigrette from the Italians. Such a topic is unimportant to the point of triviality. People sometimes feel like if a story isn't on HN's front page, that we, or the community, feel like it's unimportant. That's not it at all. Rather, importance is not the quality that organizes HN. If it were, HN would not exist. An entirely different website, or no website, would exist in its place. The organizing principle of HN is intellectual curiosity [1]. Everything we do here derives from that [2]. In the case of a thread like this one, the question I have as a moderator (not as a human being or a citizen) is whether this community, in its particular manifestation in this thread, is able to have a thoughtful conversation in which curiosity is present, or whether it is not. We sometimes turn off user flags if the answer is yes, but not if the answer is no. That doesn't necessarily have to do with the story itself being on-topic or off-topic for HN. A story like this (or rather the cluster of stories around George Floyd, the protests, the riots, and related topics like police violence) is too big to be called on-topic or off-topic. It depends on the particular submission and the particular thread. HN has had several major threads related to this story and I'm sure it will have more. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20curiosity%20optimiz&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

detaro 6y ago

there's a scale to a submission being flagged (depending on the number of flags relative to other activity on the post), and they affect ranking before the "[flagged]" mark appears - I assume that's what happened. You can email the mods and ask if they'll remove the ranking penalty through the contact link in the footer.

pbourke 6y ago

It's been flagged to oblivion so as not to pierce HN's tender bubble. Should have mentioned which JS framework was used to build the site so the post would stay on the front page.

scarface74 6y ago
Exactly. HN caring more about wanting government to force Apple to allow side loading than police misconduct shows why you basically need rioting to make people pay attention. A football player kneeling peacefully as a stand against police misconduct and being called a son of a bitch by the President doesn’t get a peep from HN. People start rioting gets attention.
h3cate 6y ago
Haha sadly, there's no JS. I would load vue though if that meant they wouldn't bury the thread..
rsynnott 6y ago
Even better, it should have been implemented in rust. HN’s rust fixation (I get it, I like rust, but...) and aversion to anything involving society would have been held in perfect balance.
koheripbal 6y ago
Does every website need to be an activist website? Seems redundant.

h3cate 6y ago

Haha wow I wouldn't of expected that from hn! It's bought me time to fix the site so I don't mind too much but this only reinforces my belief in the need for the site. It's too easy for information to be hidden on the web

pas 6y ago

alas I have no solution, just a workaround use https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/

Balgair 6y ago

Try: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active It's number 1 there right now. I typically use the /active site instead of the homepage as I mostly come here for the discussion sections anyway. The https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists page is generally a great resource for HN.

dang 6y ago

Users flagged it. That's usually the reason.

koheripbal 6y ago
Yeah, people forget that not literally every website needs to be an activist forum.
- h3cate 6y ago
  Far from it. The internet should be the inclusive society that we seem to be unable to attain in the real world.
  - dang 6y ago
    I agree with that and wrote something similar in a little essay about HN recently. The challenge is how to get there. I don't think we can flamewar our way to peace on the internet.
nojvek 6y ago
Not sure why it was flagged but I use hn.algolia.com and it was one of the top links. I upvoted it. The police are making the situation worse and people need to know they are no longer the police who are their to protect them but the police who are abusing their power and worse than terrorists. This issue is way more important than SpaceX launch. It could mean we don’t have the next black Astronaut, or the next minority space engineer, or the next minority Elon Musk. Because a minor police encounter would have led to their death.
- dang 6y ago
  There's no question that it's more important. Of course it is more important than basically everything on HN's front page. For example, HN had a front-page story yesterday about whether the French adopted vinaigrette from the Italians. Such a topic is unimportant to the point of triviality. People sometimes feel like if a story isn't on HN's front page, that we, or the community, feel like it's unimportant. That's not it at all. Rather, importance is not the quality that organizes HN. If it were, HN would not exist. An entirely different website, or no website, would exist in its place. The organizing principle of HN is intellectual curiosity [1]. Everything we do here derives from that [2]. In the case of a thread like this one, the question I have as a moderator (not as a human being or a citizen) is whether this community, in its particular manifestation in this thread, is able to have a thoughtful conversation in which curiosity is present, or whether it is not. We sometimes turn off user flags if the answer is yes, but not if the answer is no. That doesn't necessarily have to do with the story itself being on-topic or off-topic for HN. A story like this (or rather the cluster of stories around George Floyd, the protests, the riots, and related topics like police violence) is too big to be called on-topic or off-topic. It depends on the particular submission and the particular thread. HN has had several major threads related to this story and I'm sure it will have more. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20curiosity%20optimiz&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...