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Tangentially related: anybody have links for good op-sec guides for creating a site that might make dangerous people pissed off?

h3cate 6y ago
Depends on the dangerous people you're talking about I suppose
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  Exactly. IIRC alphabet agencies operate many tor exit nodes.
  - pstuart 6y ago
    Among a plethora of other tricks. To be able to evade state-level actors would be the ultimate goal. That may likely be impossible but it would be nice to explore if it could be done. I have no intention of becoming an "enemy of the state", but I also never imagined I'd be living in this dystopian timeline.
  - h3cate 6y ago
    Easiest way to track somebody on tor is to follow them through their bounces.
- xwdv 6y ago
  Leaders in black protests have been killed off by white power supremacists over the years. The creator of this site risks the same.
  - austincheney 6y ago
    There is no indication this website is a racial thing. It looks like the op is gathering any videos of police brutality.
    - xwdv 6y ago
      I’m not the one you need to convince.
  - h3cate 6y ago
    Yelp! Hopefully it doesn't come to that. I've not created a "We need to stop the KKK" and blasted their faces on the internet... yet.
- pstuart 6y ago
  From random pizza-gate types, then up through the power hierarchy to the very top of a handful of world superpowers. An effort perhaps quixotic at best, it's worth thinking about. We are at a tipping point in civilization and I don't want to complicit that going the wrong way.
mLuby 6y ago
How about [This Page Is Anonymous](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20220048 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20220048)? Anonymous-site-as-a-service must be a thing.
flixic 6y ago
If you can rely on audience being quite technical, IPFS is a pretty good, very censorship-resistant approach. There are some IPFS bridges that make viewing content easier. If IPFS is out of the question, I'd look for hosting services that talk openly about being censorship-resistant. Won't give any links, but there are a couple, even if slightly shady looking.
- pstuart 6y ago
  I'm fascinated by IPFS (and plan on using it elsewhere) but I my desire is to have as wide exposure as possible.
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Ie883hdb 6y ago
Retroshare!
- mr_spothawk 6y ago
  needs a better interface, but it's my fav candidate for immediate backup if it were necessary.
quickthrower2 6y ago
Twitter seems to be doing a good job. Maybe you don't create a site, but resurface the content on different social media.
- pstuart 6y ago
  Yeah, that is true. The problem is that twitter is also a firehose of effluent. It would be nice to have curated content and dialog too. The other angle is memes. I think that bumper sticker politics is more relevant today than when it was on actual bumpers.
mr_spothawk 6y ago
i think datprotocol.org looks promising for folks who are interested in rehosting the data
greggyb 6y ago
Host it here: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ (This is assuming that you are not doing anything illegal.) Make it static. Be able to deploy quickly to a new host if need be.
- pstuart 6y ago
  > This is assuming that you are not doing anything illegal I have only good intentions. Doing something illegal could be shifting rapidly. Trump intends to make antifa a terrorist organization (of which I have zero affiliation and conflicted feelings about). I believe that action is but a taste of what is to come.
  - greggyb 6y ago
    I have only good things to say about their service and pricing. They are very privacy and free speech focused. They will cooperate with law enforcement agencies when served warrants/subpoenas, but otherwise will protect you and your privacy very doggedly.
- codethief 6y ago
  > This is assuming that you are not doing anything illegal. Unfortunately, you are rarely the one who decides what is legal and what is not. I remember Edward Snowden mentioning this in some AMA on Reddit as one of the reasons why for a society it's a bad idea to strive for zero crime rates: After all, this most likely means that it's impossible to commit a crime and, thus, rebel against or, if need be, even overthrow the system.

h3cate 6y ago

Depends on the dangerous people you're talking about I suppose

CameronNemo 6y ago
Exactly. IIRC alphabet agencies operate many tor exit nodes.
- pstuart 6y ago
  Among a plethora of other tricks. To be able to evade state-level actors would be the ultimate goal. That may likely be impossible but it would be nice to explore if it could be done. I have no intention of becoming an "enemy of the state", but I also never imagined I'd be living in this dystopian timeline.
- h3cate 6y ago
  Easiest way to track somebody on tor is to follow them through their bounces.
xwdv 6y ago
Leaders in black protests have been killed off by white power supremacists over the years. The creator of this site risks the same.
- austincheney 6y ago
  There is no indication this website is a racial thing. It looks like the op is gathering any videos of police brutality.
  - xwdv 6y ago
    I’m not the one you need to convince.
- h3cate 6y ago
  Yelp! Hopefully it doesn't come to that. I've not created a "We need to stop the KKK" and blasted their faces on the internet... yet.
pstuart 6y ago
From random pizza-gate types, then up through the power hierarchy to the very top of a handful of world superpowers. An effort perhaps quixotic at best, it's worth thinking about. We are at a tipping point in civilization and I don't want to complicit that going the wrong way.

mLuby 6y ago

How about [This Page Is Anonymous](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20220048 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20220048)? Anonymous-site-as-a-service must be a thing.

flixic 6y ago

If you can rely on audience being quite technical, IPFS is a pretty good, very censorship-resistant approach. There are some IPFS bridges that make viewing content easier. If IPFS is out of the question, I'd look for hosting services that talk openly about being censorship-resistant. Won't give any links, but there are a couple, even if slightly shady looking.

pstuart 6y ago
I'm fascinated by IPFS (and plan on using it elsewhere) but I my desire is to have as wide exposure as possible.

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Ie883hdb 6y ago

Retroshare!

mr_spothawk 6y ago
needs a better interface, but it's my fav candidate for immediate backup if it were necessary.

quickthrower2 6y ago

Twitter seems to be doing a good job. Maybe you don't create a site, but resurface the content on different social media.

pstuart 6y ago
Yeah, that is true. The problem is that twitter is also a firehose of effluent. It would be nice to have curated content and dialog too. The other angle is memes. I think that bumper sticker politics is more relevant today than when it was on actual bumpers.

mr_spothawk 6y ago

i think datprotocol.org looks promising for folks who are interested in rehosting the data

greggyb 6y ago

Host it here: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ (This is assuming that you are not doing anything illegal.) Make it static. Be able to deploy quickly to a new host if need be.

pstuart 6y ago
> This is assuming that you are not doing anything illegal I have only good intentions. Doing something illegal could be shifting rapidly. Trump intends to make antifa a terrorist organization (of which I have zero affiliation and conflicted feelings about). I believe that action is but a taste of what is to come.
- greggyb 6y ago
  I have only good things to say about their service and pricing. They are very privacy and free speech focused. They will cooperate with law enforcement agencies when served warrants/subpoenas, but otherwise will protect you and your privacy very doggedly.
codethief 6y ago
> This is assuming that you are not doing anything illegal. Unfortunately, you are rarely the one who decides what is legal and what is not. I remember Edward Snowden mentioning this in some AMA on Reddit as one of the reasons why for a society it's a bad idea to strive for zero crime rates: After all, this most likely means that it's impossible to commit a crime and, thus, rebel against or, if need be, even overthrow the system.