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This is not science, this is magic right there. “It is clear that today the COVID-19 disease is different.” The only difference is social distancing, for fucks
by neatze 6y ago
This is not science, this is magic right there.
“It is clear that today the COVID-19 disease is different.”
The only difference is social distancing, for fucks sake.
- pwned1 6y agoCitation needed.
- neatze 6y agoI am not sure what you asking for, my point is; if you make extraordinary claim that virus mutated without evidence then it is magic. Even if there evidence of mutation that make virus less potent; you still have to make clear link how it is not result of changed variables such as, but not limited to; social distancing and medical stuff effectiveness.
- tinus_hn 6y agoI think we’ve mostly advanced past the point of view that mutations are magic, it’s well known they happen. That’s hardly an extraordinary claim.
- neatze 6y agoMutation is not a magic, in fact neat in my nick name stands for Neuro Evolutionary Augmented Topologies. Point is, you have to demonstrate concisely location of mutation with effects of less potency in addition to effects of changed environmental variables.
- dombesz 6y agoNot exactly, there was a series of articles from a virologist here on HN (cant find it), the idea is that he wanted to infect people with the less deadly corona versions so we all gain immunity. This would prevent a lot of casualities. This idea also works the same way in nature, as in the less deadly virus can spread more, because it produces milder symptoms and even no symptoms. This means you are more likely to catch a milder version, which leads to the fact that the virus becomes less dangerous, as deadlier strains will fade out quicker. This does not mean we need to let go the social distancing at all, but on the other hand we have to reach herdimmunity at some point, preferrably without too much casualities.
- IXxXI 6y ago(found it) Link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22810639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22810639
- neatze 6y agoI re-read the article and might be mad, but this is your interpretation or rationalization of what doctor said.
- dombesz 6y agoI wrote down the reason why the virus is “getting” weaker. There is no explanation of the phenomena in the article, the doctor just talks about what he experiences without an explanation. Social distancing alone wouldn’t help us, we also need the herd immunity, otherwise the virus would just flare up randomly the second we ease the restrictions. The mechanism I mentioned helps us to achieve herd immunity with time. I don’t understand why is that getting downvoted... Meanwhile I found the article: https://www.tillett.info/2020/04/05/a-solution-to-covid-19/ https://www.tillett.info/2020/04/05/a-solution-to-covid-19/
- catawbasam 6y agoClearly not true. For example, mask wearing is another difference in many places.
- neatze 6y agoThis was my mistake not outlining all the differences (technically it is social distancing), another one would be medical stuff is much more effective in treatment, and another one would be diagnoses are increased orders of magnitude.
- perl4ever 6y agoIt could be the proportion of iatrogenic deaths is decreasing. Like, initially hospitals were being aggressive with ventilators on people who were very ill, because "what do you have to lose", and then there were some articles about being more judicious in their use and cutting mortality substantially.
- cm2187 6y agoWeather too.
- neatze 6y agoIn what way weather effects virus spread is beyond my understanding.
- cmyr 6y agovarious possible ways: for instance (theoretically) heat and humidity might effect how long virus survives intact outside of the host, or increased UV light exposure could speed up virus breakdown.
- neatze 6y agoUV light makes sense, humidity and heat does not, because if I am not mistaken; in summer humidity can be substantially higher then in winter and body temperature is fairly high compered to outside average.
- pochamago 6y agoConsider that just raising the internal body temperature by a few degrees is a major mechanic in your immune system. Many diseases are not tuned for 100 degrees Fahrenheit
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