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Related post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287 Sadly, this response by Microsoft doesn’t address any

by hysan 6y ago

Related post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287 Sadly, this response by Microsoft doesn’t address anything. It reads more like an acknowledgment that what Keivan wrote was indeed the truth. It’s very much the type of non-apology that you’d see from politicians. At the very least, I would expect a post mortem style explanation about what led to Keivan being ghosted and how they plan to not repeat the same thing from occurring. This isn’t the normal candidate interview pipeline after all.

ShamelessC 6y ago
>I want to take this opportunity to thank Keivan for his thoughtful approach to AppGet and working with us. We will be open sourcing our service code into our our WinGet repository on GitHub so that we can work together with Keivan and others to enable a better WinGet repository listing service. Yeah, this feels very much like they're trying to spin what actually happened. All the more frustrating because the App-Get creator was incredibly understanding about everything. It wasn't the usual hn "[FAANG] stole our billion dollar idea and made it free" thing. From what I saw, he was actually quite happy that MS finally had a proper official package manager. He genuinely just wanted to have been involved in the discussion and credited for the obvious use of his ideas even though they clearly brain-raped him. If this is their idea of giving him credit, I would think they should tell the story the way it really happened and apologize for their behavior. If they're not going to do that, they probably shouldn't even mention it because it's truly distracting me from learning about the merits of WinGet.
lostmsu 6y ago
I wanted to argue with you, as at least they did credit Keivan. But I hit Ctrl+F on the page, typed "apolo", and found nothing.
toyg 6y ago
Sadly I expect their legal counsel was involved. It reads like something that, while acknowledging they took “some” inspiration from Keivan’s work, avoids stating any detail about what that was. Note also how they carefully avoid mentioning anything related to the job interview, the most “sue-able” of subjects. I’m not mad anymore, it’s just bittersweet: Keivan finally gets some kudos, but yet again the giant corporation cannot stop itself from looking utterly soulless.

by hysan 6y ago

ShamelessC 6y ago

>I want to take this opportunity to thank Keivan for his thoughtful approach to AppGet and working with us. We will be open sourcing our service code into our our WinGet repository on GitHub so that we can work together with Keivan and others to enable a better WinGet repository listing service. Yeah, this feels very much like they're trying to spin what actually happened. All the more frustrating because the App-Get creator was incredibly understanding about everything. It wasn't the usual hn "[FAANG] stole our billion dollar idea and made it free" thing. From what I saw, he was actually quite happy that MS finally had a proper official package manager. He genuinely just wanted to have been involved in the discussion and credited for the obvious use of his ideas even though they clearly brain-raped him. If this is their idea of giving him credit, I would think they should tell the story the way it really happened and apologize for their behavior. If they're not going to do that, they probably shouldn't even mention it because it's truly distracting me from learning about the merits of WinGet.

lostmsu 6y ago

I wanted to argue with you, as at least they did credit Keivan. But I hit Ctrl+F on the page, typed "apolo", and found nothing.

toyg 6y ago

Sadly I expect their legal counsel was involved. It reads like something that, while acknowledging they took “some” inspiration from Keivan’s work, avoids stating any detail about what that was. Note also how they carefully avoid mentioning anything related to the job interview, the most “sue-able” of subjects. I’m not mad anymore, it’s just bittersweet: Keivan finally gets some kudos, but yet again the giant corporation cannot stop itself from looking utterly soulless.