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Won't they just recreate Earth's social structures on the Moon? Possibly with divergence over time but why would they suddenly abandon racism and nationalism?

deadbunny 6y ago
I would assume/hope the fact there are only a very small number of you living on an inhospitable rock would bond people together in the effort needed to survive.
- jacobush 6y ago
  They will of course invent a new racism, off-Worlders. But I'll take that as a slight improvement to our current situation anyways.
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    Look no further than to The Expanse, welwala[0]. It's all fun and games until (spoiler alert) someone decides to drop some space rocks on your home. That said, I think it's still worth the risk. -- [0] - A slur that roughly translates to "lover of planets and culture that comes from them".
    - m4rtink 6y ago
      I find it interesting that all the major powers in Expanse are in a realistic cold war & pretty nasty. You migh find one of them sympathetic for a while, only to find out it was all a construction hiding the horrendous deeds they did for political power. Only to find out the others did even worse thing. And agains this backdrop you have the heroes, trying to keep some sort of moral integrity & helping to save what they can, often derailing various grand schemes withou even realizing it.
- dlhavema 6y ago
  Yes but sadly people are still people.. they will take their problems with them.
cgriswald 6y ago
If the expanding United States is an example, they'll probably change the social structures of Earth. Consider the map in the section Turn of the Tide on Wikipedia's Women's Suffrage in the United States article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_United_States#Turn_of_the_tide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_Unit... It's not a coincidence that as you go from west to east, the level of suffrage for women generally decreases prior to the 19th amendment. Nor is it a coincidence that the 19th passed. This was due, in part, to the federal system of government allowing states great freedom in how they operated, but also due in part to the expanding frontier. Governments were allowed to experiment. Wyoming (followed quickly by Utah) was the first state to recognize women's right to vote. It actually working was great evidence for proponents in other places. It also put competitive pressure on other states to get it right if they wanted women to immigrate to their state (which they did). Over the short term, we'll probably see something on the moon more like the early British colonies. But over the long term, once the moon becomes more or less self sufficient and people start spreading out across the surface to found new domes or tunnels or whatever form colonies eventually take, I suspect we'll reap social and governmental benefits.

deadbunny 6y ago

I would assume/hope the fact there are only a very small number of you living on an inhospitable rock would bond people together in the effort needed to survive.

jacobush 6y ago
They will of course invent a new racism, off-Worlders. But I'll take that as a slight improvement to our current situation anyways.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  Look no further than to The Expanse, welwala[0]. It's all fun and games until (spoiler alert) someone decides to drop some space rocks on your home. That said, I think it's still worth the risk. -- [0] - A slur that roughly translates to "lover of planets and culture that comes from them".
  - m4rtink 6y ago
    I find it interesting that all the major powers in Expanse are in a realistic cold war & pretty nasty. You migh find one of them sympathetic for a while, only to find out it was all a construction hiding the horrendous deeds they did for political power. Only to find out the others did even worse thing. And agains this backdrop you have the heroes, trying to keep some sort of moral integrity & helping to save what they can, often derailing various grand schemes withou even realizing it.
dlhavema 6y ago
Yes but sadly people are still people.. they will take their problems with them.

cgriswald 6y ago

If the expanding United States is an example, they'll probably change the social structures of Earth. Consider the map in the section Turn of the Tide on Wikipedia's Women's Suffrage in the United States article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_United_States#Turn_of_the_tide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_Unit... It's not a coincidence that as you go from west to east, the level of suffrage for women generally decreases prior to the 19th amendment. Nor is it a coincidence that the 19th passed. This was due, in part, to the federal system of government allowing states great freedom in how they operated, but also due in part to the expanding frontier. Governments were allowed to experiment. Wyoming (followed quickly by Utah) was the first state to recognize women's right to vote. It actually working was great evidence for proponents in other places. It also put competitive pressure on other states to get it right if they wanted women to immigrate to their state (which they did). Over the short term, we'll probably see something on the moon more like the early British colonies. But over the long term, once the moon becomes more or less self sufficient and people start spreading out across the surface to found new domes or tunnels or whatever form colonies eventually take, I suspect we'll reap social and governmental benefits.