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>Fuchsia's goal is to power production devices and products used for business-critical applications People have guessed that Fuchsia is some successor to Andro

>Fuchsia's goal is to power production devices and products used for business-critical applications People have guessed that Fuchsia is some successor to Android or unification of Chrome OS and Android. However, this statement makes me wonder if it is meant to run their backend hardware and not consumer products.

qmarchi 6y ago
Actually quite the opposite, Fuchsia already runs on production devices manufactured by Google. The (ridiculously long named) Google Nest Home Hub and Home Hub Max both can run Zircon and Fuchsia on device, although it's very much for development.
- innagadadavida 6y ago
  Apart from the unfortunate sounding name, for this to be relevant on android phones or watches, it needs to simply work with the 2+ million apps out there. Just posix compatibility is insufficient - apps rely on Linux implementation behavior.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    No one doing apps cares about POSIX on or Linux on Android, unless we are talking about people rooting their devices. The official stable APIs are the Java/Kotlin frameworks, NDK native libraries, ISO C and ISO C++ standard libraries. Exactly to cut down on misbehaviours of developers getting hold of unofficial Linux syscalls or non public .so, Google has started to use LinuxSE and seccomp to lock out such kind of apps. So any Android application that only uses public APIs will have no trouble migrating to Fuchsia.
- jeffbee 6y ago
  They probably cut it down from the original “Play Home Hub All Access by Nest by Google”.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    The original sold-as product name was Google Home Hub, the announced rename was the shorter Nest Hub, though it seems to be fully Google Nest Hub (that's the title of the Google Store product page, though the page itself only ever used Nest Hub.) I can't find anything from Google using both the “Nest” and “Home” bits as part of the same product name, though some third party sites seem to have mixed the old and new names that way.
skavi 6y ago
There’s a fairly heavy emphasis on graphics and UI throughout Fuchsia’s stack, so I doubt it’s meant to just sit on a server.
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qmarchi 6y ago

Actually quite the opposite, Fuchsia already runs on production devices manufactured by Google. The (ridiculously long named) Google Nest Home Hub and Home Hub Max both can run Zircon and Fuchsia on device, although it's very much for development.

innagadadavida 6y ago
Apart from the unfortunate sounding name, for this to be relevant on android phones or watches, it needs to simply work with the 2+ million apps out there. Just posix compatibility is insufficient - apps rely on Linux implementation behavior.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  No one doing apps cares about POSIX on or Linux on Android, unless we are talking about people rooting their devices. The official stable APIs are the Java/Kotlin frameworks, NDK native libraries, ISO C and ISO C++ standard libraries. Exactly to cut down on misbehaviours of developers getting hold of unofficial Linux syscalls or non public .so, Google has started to use LinuxSE and seccomp to lock out such kind of apps. So any Android application that only uses public APIs will have no trouble migrating to Fuchsia.
jeffbee 6y ago
They probably cut it down from the original “Play Home Hub All Access by Nest by Google”.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  The original sold-as product name was Google Home Hub, the announced rename was the shorter Nest Hub, though it seems to be fully Google Nest Hub (that's the title of the Google Store product page, though the page itself only ever used Nest Hub.) I can't find anything from Google using both the “Nest” and “Home” bits as part of the same product name, though some third party sites seem to have mixed the old and new names that way.

skavi 6y ago

There’s a fairly heavy emphasis on graphics and UI throughout Fuchsia’s stack, so I doubt it’s meant to just sit on a server.

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