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Non-natural born American is still American. This is what immigration is.

ardit33 6y ago
Immigrant myself, came in this country when I was 17 from Albania, and have lived most of my life here (on my late 30s now). While feeling 'american' is a subjective thing (I consider myself Albanian), There are still limitations. A naturalized citizen, can't be a US president, and in rare circumstances you can be stripped of your citizenship (it is called 'denaturalization'). So, yeah.... lets live it up to him to call himself whatever he wants, but calling him American is like calling Einstein/Tesla/Von Brown american. Sure, they got US citizenship at some point... but that's not how Ethnicity works.
- pmorici 6y ago
  That is perhaps literally the only limitation and even that isn’t absolute since the law could be changed for a candidate with the right support.
- macinjosh 6y ago
  'American' is not an ethnicity. That is a big reason it is so great. If America is such an awful place why are you here and not in albania? Why did Einstein et al. come here? The American system enables things that are impossible in other countries.
  - ardit33 6y ago
    Wat... americans born here have no 'ethnicity'? eth·nic·i·ty /eTHˈnisədē/ noun "the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition." Also, I love this country... where did I say this place is awful? I live in NYC and I love it. That doesn't mean that I don't love my original country as well, (Albania).
    - macinjosh 6y ago
      IMHO, this kind of thinking setups an us vs. them mentality. The best part of America is that anyone who lives here can call themselves an American. It is maximally inclusive. Segregating us into 'immigrants' vs. 'ethnic Americans' is antithetical to the ideals of this imperfect society.
  - macinjosh 6y ago
    @ardit33 I am glad you are here and like it here!!! IMHO all immigrants are great and the US government should never restrict immigration. Regarding 'American' as an ethnicity check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot America is the most diverse place on earth. Ethnicities from all over the world call it home.
davrosthedalek 6y ago
Despite the current political climate, it think this is, at it's core, what /America/ is.

Immigrant myself, came in this country when I was 17 from Albania, and have lived most of my life here (on my late 30s now). While feeling 'american' is a subjective thing (I consider myself Albanian), There are still limitations. A naturalized citizen, can't be a US president, and in rare circumstances you can be stripped of your citizenship (it is called 'denaturalization'). So, yeah.... lets live it up to him to call himself whatever he wants, but calling him American is like calling Einstein/Tesla/Von Brown american. Sure, they got US citizenship at some point... but that's not how Ethnicity works.

pmorici 6y ago
That is perhaps literally the only limitation and even that isn’t absolute since the law could be changed for a candidate with the right support.
macinjosh 6y ago
'American' is not an ethnicity. That is a big reason it is so great. If America is such an awful place why are you here and not in albania? Why did Einstein et al. come here? The American system enables things that are impossible in other countries.
- ardit33 6y ago
  Wat... americans born here have no 'ethnicity'? eth·nic·i·ty /eTHˈnisədē/ noun "the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition." Also, I love this country... where did I say this place is awful? I live in NYC and I love it. That doesn't mean that I don't love my original country as well, (Albania).
  - macinjosh 6y ago
    IMHO, this kind of thinking setups an us vs. them mentality. The best part of America is that anyone who lives here can call themselves an American. It is maximally inclusive. Segregating us into 'immigrants' vs. 'ethnic Americans' is antithetical to the ideals of this imperfect society.
- macinjosh 6y ago
  @ardit33 I am glad you are here and like it here!!! IMHO all immigrants are great and the US government should never restrict immigration. Regarding 'American' as an ethnicity check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot America is the most diverse place on earth. Ethnicities from all over the world call it home.

davrosthedalek 6y ago

Despite the current political climate, it think this is, at it's core, what /America/ is.