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I don't think it's fair to say that people who make a different assessment of risks and/or have different risk tolerance than you are "incredibly selfish". Lock

I don't think it's fair to say that people who make a different assessment of risks and/or have different risk tolerance than you are "incredibly selfish". Lockdown, social distancing, mask-wearing, and other related changes in behavior are all about trade-offs in the face of uncertainty. Maybe you're right - but maybe you're wrong.

tomnipotent 6y ago
> different assessment of risks and/or have different risk tolerance I could care less about their personal assessment of risk, what I care about is that they go on to put other people at risk through these shenanigans. Someone willing to go to a crowded church during a pandemic intersects highly with people willing to go into other public spaces during a pandemic. I don't want to be put at risk because of their stupidity. They're not just making decisions that effect themselves.
irrational 6y ago
Someone could go to a church meeting in one state and get the virus and then give it to someone else who gives it to someone else who gives it to me. x1000. That is selfish. They aren’t giving a single thought for the potential ramifications of their actions on people they’ve never met. Acting in such a way that potentially many people could die, when all you would have had to do was stay home, is the very definition of selfishness.
- totony 6y ago
  I think you are projecting your opinion. >all you would have had to do was stay home, is the very definition of selfishness. Staying at home for extended periods is not the easy thing people seem to project. Social gathering are very important to a lot of people. Religious gathering are the same. Telling people that there is no "risk analysis" here is both dishonest and dangerous.
  - irrational 6y ago
    People shouldn't have to stay home since it is hard?! Walking thousands of miles in the winter is hard. Fleeing an invading army is hard. Living through a famine is hard. Staying at home is not hard. And if it is, learning how to do hard things is a skill that everyone should develop.
    - totony 6y ago
      That's a valid opinion. It could also be that things are more of a spectrum than black and white.

tomnipotent 6y ago

> different assessment of risks and/or have different risk tolerance I could care less about their personal assessment of risk, what I care about is that they go on to put other people at risk through these shenanigans. Someone willing to go to a crowded church during a pandemic intersects highly with people willing to go into other public spaces during a pandemic. I don't want to be put at risk because of their stupidity. They're not just making decisions that effect themselves.

irrational 6y ago

Someone could go to a church meeting in one state and get the virus and then give it to someone else who gives it to someone else who gives it to me. x1000. That is selfish. They aren’t giving a single thought for the potential ramifications of their actions on people they’ve never met. Acting in such a way that potentially many people could die, when all you would have had to do was stay home, is the very definition of selfishness.

totony 6y ago
I think you are projecting your opinion. >all you would have had to do was stay home, is the very definition of selfishness. Staying at home for extended periods is not the easy thing people seem to project. Social gathering are very important to a lot of people. Religious gathering are the same. Telling people that there is no "risk analysis" here is both dishonest and dangerous.
- irrational 6y ago
  People shouldn't have to stay home since it is hard?! Walking thousands of miles in the winter is hard. Fleeing an invading army is hard. Living through a famine is hard. Staying at home is not hard. And if it is, learning how to do hard things is a skill that everyone should develop.
  - totony 6y ago
    That's a valid opinion. It could also be that things are more of a spectrum than black and white.