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Just to be clear, as it seems not many people actually read the ruling, this is not an injunction on gatherings, but a ruling on the restrictions imposed (e.g.
by dvt 6y ago
Just to be clear, as it seems not many people actually read the ruling, this is not an injunction on gatherings, but a ruling on the restrictions imposed (e.g. only 25% capacity, maximum of 100, etc.).
- gnicholas 6y agoThe rules that were challenged were the 25% capacity and no more than 100 people rules that newsom issued recently, after public outcry that the original rules (no church until phase 3) were inappropriate. The church in question seems to have focused on the 25% capacity portion of the new rules.
- fmajid 6y agoHow are those rules different from the Fire Marshall rules on maximum occupancy?
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- joshuamorton 6y agoThe church's claim is that since other businesses, such as grocery stores, don't have occupancy limits[0], that enforcing occupancy limits on churches is discriminatory. The state argues that churches aren't like grocery stores, but like concert halls or theaters, which remain closed and will likely have similar occupancy caps when. The state also goes a bit further and notes that churches include singing, speech, and audience participation that isn't common in other places like grocery stores and theaters, which increase the dangers of spreading respiratory droplets. The majority essentially agreed that Churches are more like concerts than grocery stores, and that treating them similarly is reasonable in an emergency situation. The minority disagreed. [0]: I'm unclear on this, the grocery stores I go to do have 1-in-1-out policies and capacity caps. Lines go out the door and are socially distanced.
- gnicholas 6y agoThe fire marshal rules take into account the size of each building and the number of exits. Newsom’s rules subject small churches and large churches to the same 100-person cap, regardless of building size.
- loteck 6y agoFire rules take into account many factors to ensure the health & safety of the people in the building. A hard cap on attendance (it's 25% or 100, whichever is smaller, by the way) during a pandemic is another example of accounting for factors to protect health & safety.
- calinux 6y agoThere was more to the case than just CA issue. The even bigger point was the Illinois Governor and especially the Chicago mayor effectively banning all church gatherings for a year or more until a vaccine is developed. The case was brought by some churches that when reopened they went fully above what CDC and the law required for Walmarts, Targets etc as safety measures keeping 2 feet distance, masks, sanitizer.. And in the end this was based on the First Amendment. Congress shall make no law in respecting religious an establishment of religion or prohibiting the exercise thereof... If retail stores and restaurants can reopen, why are their doors staying closed especially given the measures taken to prevent any transmission? You can follow up on the article below. https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/5/10/21253844/albany-park-church-hosts-sunday-service-defiance-stay-at-home-order-lawsuit-pritzker-illinois https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2020/5/10/21253844/... There is so much more to the story. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10214601201978271&id=1668654676 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1021460120197827... https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10214604944471831&id=1668654676 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1021460494447183... https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10214626361287238&id=1668654676 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1021462636128723...