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The fact that something is unenforceable is a poor way of stopping rich lawyer-based companies, such as Oracle, from attempting to enforce it nonetheless.

jojobas 6y ago
Not all countries allow the "sue to bankruptcy" litigation model. I'd truly love to see this unfold in Germany, for example. They typically award costs to the winner too.
- 411111111111111 6y ago
  While you're likely correct that this wouldn't work in Germany as in a situation like this Oracle would've to pay their layers, the defendants lawyer as well as the courts costs if they repeal too often... There are other avenues for them to ruin his live, which I can imagine them taking. I.e not extending his employers licence or making them pay even more. Oracle loves to make examples and ain't pulling their punches
  - jojobas 6y ago
    Surely discrimination on a public license offer would not be considered funny in Germany either?
  - to11mtm 6y ago
    I mean it probably would be a protracted battle, but one that a person would likely be able to win in the EU. The most classic example I can think of was the McLibel case; one of the critical points in that being overturned was the gross disparity in legal resources of each side was considered a violation of the defendant's rights.
speedgoose 6y ago
You can do like what Videolan is doing for VLC: the president reply to the lawyers that they have no power there.
- makapuf 6y ago
  Can you elaborate? Do you have a source?
  - speedgoose 6y ago
    I searched a bit but I didn't find the message I remembered where the Videolan president said that he was replying to the lawyers. However, here is a similar comment (in French) from him in which he wrote that he isn't scared of replying to the patents lawyers himself. https://old.reddit.com/r/france/comments/736ghk/ama_je_suis_le_pr%C3%A9sident_de_videolan_et_le/dno6lwl/ https://old.reddit.com/r/france/comments/736ghk/ama_je_suis_... And here is the legal page of Videolan that some American lawyers may not appreciate. https://www.videolan.org/legal.html https://www.videolan.org/legal.html

jojobas 6y ago

Not all countries allow the "sue to bankruptcy" litigation model. I'd truly love to see this unfold in Germany, for example. They typically award costs to the winner too.

411111111111111 6y ago
While you're likely correct that this wouldn't work in Germany as in a situation like this Oracle would've to pay their layers, the defendants lawyer as well as the courts costs if they repeal too often... There are other avenues for them to ruin his live, which I can imagine them taking. I.e not extending his employers licence or making them pay even more. Oracle loves to make examples and ain't pulling their punches
- jojobas 6y ago
  Surely discrimination on a public license offer would not be considered funny in Germany either?
- to11mtm 6y ago
  I mean it probably would be a protracted battle, but one that a person would likely be able to win in the EU. The most classic example I can think of was the McLibel case; one of the critical points in that being overturned was the gross disparity in legal resources of each side was considered a violation of the defendant's rights.

speedgoose 6y ago

You can do like what Videolan is doing for VLC: the president reply to the lawyers that they have no power there.

makapuf 6y ago
Can you elaborate? Do you have a source?
- speedgoose 6y ago
  I searched a bit but I didn't find the message I remembered where the Videolan president said that he was replying to the lawyers. However, here is a similar comment (in French) from him in which he wrote that he isn't scared of replying to the patents lawyers himself. https://old.reddit.com/r/france/comments/736ghk/ama_je_suis_le_pr%C3%A9sident_de_videolan_et_le/dno6lwl/ https://old.reddit.com/r/france/comments/736ghk/ama_je_suis_... And here is the legal page of Videolan that some American lawyers may not appreciate. https://www.videolan.org/legal.html https://www.videolan.org/legal.html