4 ms·
Has the US disclosed why they are cracking down so hard on this one company. I know they are seen as a security threat and a puppet of the Chinese government bu
by xupybd 6y ago
Has the US disclosed why they are cracking down so hard on this one company. I know they are seen as a security threat and a puppet of the Chinese government but has there been a statement explaining what's going on here?
- londons_explore 6y agoIt's the first non-west-friendly provider of core bits of network infrastructure. It's also cheaper and better, which means it's selling quickly. Having network infrastructure with your designs installed on every network interconnection worldwide is very useful if you want to, say, have access to tap any conversation anywhere in the world... The funny thing is the US has missed the boat... Hearts and minds is what matters far more than network infrastructure, and tiktok has won there...
- giantrobot 6y agoThey resell a bunch of stolen Cisco and Nortel technology. So it's cheaper because they didn't develop it and better is a very subjective statement.
- harpratap 6y agoTheir 5G antennas are novel tech and only Nokia and Ericcson can compete with them. Cisco and Nortel provide just software layers on top of it.
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- londons_explore 6y agoStealing two bits of good tech, and combining them to make the best tech, might be against lots of IP laws in the US, but still results in the cheapest and best product on the market.
- TazeTSchnitzel 6y agoHuawei is one of the few Chinese tech giants with success in the West. I think that entire concept scares the US, which until now has enjoyed almost a monopoly on big tech. There is a security argument of course, and the US government is well aware of smartphones and related technology being perfect spy machines, but I think you have to look at this in terms of great power competition to get the full picture. Disclaimer: I work for a major West-based supplier to Huawei.
- est 6y ago> Has the US disclosed why they are cracking down so hard on this one company. I read somewhere that the simplest counter measure Huawei can take is to show it's a private company, by publishing its shareholder structure, thus renders the crack down illegal. But Huawei won't.
- feisuzhu 6y agoHuawei is basically owned by all the employees(98.99%), and Ren Zhengfei only owns 1.01%.
- iaw 6y agoWikipedia seems to disagree with your assertion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei#Ownership https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei#Ownership It may ostensibly be owned by the employees but there's a more complex ownership structure involved than what a normal company would have. " Scholars have found that, after a few stages of historical morphing, employees do not own a part of Huawei through their “shares”. Instead, the “virtual stock is a contract right, not a property right; it gives the holder no voting power in either Huawei Tech or Huawei Holding, cannot be transferred, and is cancelled when the employee leaves the firm"
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- feisuzhu 6y agoYou are right, this aligns what I know about.
- 082349872349872 6y agowhat's the legal distinction based on shareholder structure? (I can do my own searching if you can remember a keyword or two)
- jorblumesea 6y agoTo expand on this further... Though notionally a private company, Huawei (notably its founder Ren Zhengfei) has many complex and often opaque links with the Chinese government and the Chinese military. More than a decade ago, Huawei admitted that it unlawfully copied Cisco source code regarding the switches and routers that are the backbone of the internet. Huawei does not disclose details about Chinese-made components it uses in its devices and has admitted that these may be more vulnerable to hacking than some western competitors. The US basically asked point blank to define their organizational structure, connections to the CCP etc. Huawei basically balked and ignored the ask.