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> "actively resisted being handcuffed" Even if someone WAS "actively resisting" - which was obviously not what happened in this case as seen in the above video

by pdkl95 6y ago

> "actively resisted being handcuffed" Even if someone WAS "actively resisting" - which was obviously not what happened in this case as seen in the above video evidence - intentionally strangling someone for 8+ minutes after they they are on the ground under the control of multiple officers is still murder! Some people seem to believe that "resisting arrest" is a capital offense that the police can punish immediately as prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. The police say someone (usually black) "resisted", so fsck due process and execute them? -sigh-

sfj 6y ago
> intentionally strangling someone for 8+ minutes That's just it, though. According to the coroner's report, he wasn't strangled.
- pdkl95 6y ago
  So what? I'm not an expert on medical terminology; there may be a more accurate term to use to describe the cause of death. I'm only using the term in the colloquial sense, which (in my opinion) is a good description of what happened according to the video evidence. But again, so what? Even if the death was technically caused by some other mechanism, it's still patently manslaughter when someone uses their knee to crush someone's neck for ~4 minutes until they stop moving. When that person continues using their knee to crush someone's neck for an additional ~4 minutes while ignoring the please from multiple bystanders to at least check for a pulse after he stopped moving, that demonstrates the intent and mens rea necessary to upgrade the charge of manslaughter to intentional murder. The technicalities of a medical report are not relevant. If this was some sort of freak accident, the officer should have stopped what he was doing and checked vital signs. If he didn't intend to kill, the officer should have been very surprised and/or concerned when the person under his knee stopped moving and calling for help.
  - sfj 6y ago
    It might have looked to you as if he was strangling the man with his knee, but he actually wasn't and the cop probably knew he wasn't. Regardless of how things look, what really matters is how are, what really happened. Just like that video of the maga kid being stared down by the native American with the drum.

by pdkl95 6y ago

sfj 6y ago

> intentionally strangling someone for 8+ minutes That's just it, though. According to the coroner's report, he wasn't strangled.

pdkl95 6y ago
So what? I'm not an expert on medical terminology; there may be a more accurate term to use to describe the cause of death. I'm only using the term in the colloquial sense, which (in my opinion) is a good description of what happened according to the video evidence. But again, so what? Even if the death was technically caused by some other mechanism, it's still patently manslaughter when someone uses their knee to crush someone's neck for ~4 minutes until they stop moving. When that person continues using their knee to crush someone's neck for an additional ~4 minutes while ignoring the please from multiple bystanders to at least check for a pulse after he stopped moving, that demonstrates the intent and mens rea necessary to upgrade the charge of manslaughter to intentional murder. The technicalities of a medical report are not relevant. If this was some sort of freak accident, the officer should have stopped what he was doing and checked vital signs. If he didn't intend to kill, the officer should have been very surprised and/or concerned when the person under his knee stopped moving and calling for help.
- sfj 6y ago
  It might have looked to you as if he was strangling the man with his knee, but he actually wasn't and the cop probably knew he wasn't. Regardless of how things look, what really matters is how are, what really happened. Just like that video of the maga kid being stared down by the native American with the drum.