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As long as it's only happening to "thugs", why should we stick our necks out on the line and make noise? I mean I'll grumble on social media, but taking time o

As long as it's only happening to "thugs", why should we stick our necks out on the line and make noise? I mean I'll grumble on social media, but taking time out of my day to protest is inconceivable.

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aetch 6y ago
You forgot /s
csa 6y ago
> As long as it's only happening to "thugs", why should we stick our necks out on the line and make noise? 1. The chilling effect it has on the general population. 2. Your group might be next.
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- ikeyany 6y ago
  3. It's not only happening to thugs. And even if it were, thugs should still have their rights.
mistermann 6y ago
There may be mismeasured or even unseen variables in the broad, ultra-complex system that you are overlooking.
rumanator 6y ago
> As long as it's only happening to "thugs", why should we stick our necks out on the line and make noise? Because this is a pretext to create infrastructure to go after you and your family.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Good thing everyone was pushing those contact tracing apps a few weeks ago.
  - SauciestGNU 6y ago
    I think you'll find that a substantial portion of those of us who are opposed to police surveillance are also opposed to the mandatory use of contact tracing apps, especially ones designed by some of the least trustworthy surveillance companies in existence (Google, palantir, etc).
- sambull 6y ago
  Example is a representative in the sate of WA, Matt Shea; He'd like to know who doesn't pass his fealty tests: "The document, consisting of 14 sections divided into bullet points, had a section on "rules of war" that stated "make an offer of peace before declaring war", which within stated that the enemy must "surrender on terms" of no abortions, no same-sex marriage, no communism and "must obey Biblical law", then continued: "If they do not yield — kill all males"." [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Shea#%22Biblical_Basis_for_War%22_manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Shea#%22Biblical_Basis_fo...
fsflover 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

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aetch 6y ago

You forgot /s

csa 6y ago

> As long as it's only happening to "thugs", why should we stick our necks out on the line and make noise? 1. The chilling effect it has on the general population. 2. Your group might be next.

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ikeyany 6y ago
3. It's not only happening to thugs. And even if it were, thugs should still have their rights.

mistermann 6y ago

There may be mismeasured or even unseen variables in the broad, ultra-complex system that you are overlooking.

rumanator 6y ago

> As long as it's only happening to "thugs", why should we stick our necks out on the line and make noise? Because this is a pretext to create infrastructure to go after you and your family.

chrisco255 6y ago
Good thing everyone was pushing those contact tracing apps a few weeks ago.
- SauciestGNU 6y ago
  I think you'll find that a substantial portion of those of us who are opposed to police surveillance are also opposed to the mandatory use of contact tracing apps, especially ones designed by some of the least trustworthy surveillance companies in existence (Google, palantir, etc).
sambull 6y ago
Example is a representative in the sate of WA, Matt Shea; He'd like to know who doesn't pass his fealty tests: "The document, consisting of 14 sections divided into bullet points, had a section on "rules of war" that stated "make an offer of peace before declaring war", which within stated that the enemy must "surrender on terms" of no abortions, no same-sex marriage, no communism and "must obey Biblical law", then continued: "If they do not yield — kill all males"." [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Shea#%22Biblical_Basis_for_War%22_manifesto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Shea#%22Biblical_Basis_fo...

fsflover 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...