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Not necessarily. You can have all of above with Terraform, Ansible, Puppet, Chef... etc.
by aprdm 6y ago
Not necessarily. You can have all of above with Terraform, Ansible, Puppet, Chef... etc.
- verdverm 6y agoInstead of a varied interface tools set, I can have one with consistent interfaces and experiences. Kubernetes is where everything is going, hence why TF and Ansible have both recently released Kubernetes related products / features. It's their last attempt at remaining relevant (which is more than likely wasted effort in the long run). They have too much baggage (existing users in another paradigm) to make a successful pivot.
- Multicomp 6y agoIronically for me, those two tools are part of the blessed triad that we use for all of our infrastructure as code and end-user virtual machine initial setup. If we only got to keep two tools it would be kubernetes and terraform.
- aprdm 6y agoLast attempt at remaining relevant - lol. This isn’t a competition, they are tools. Ansible is widely used and will continue to be so for a long long time. Its foundations - ssh, python and yaml are also in for the long run to manage infrastructure...
- verdverm 6y agoYaml is on the way out, Cuelang will replace it where it's used for infra. It's quite easy to start by validating yaml and then you quickly realize how awesome having your config in a well thought-out language is!
- aprdm 6y agoI thought you were trolling with some called Cuelang but is actually a thing. Yaml will still be used in 100 years, k8s is yaml based...
- verdverm 6y agoYes but YOU won't be writing or seeing yaml, Cue will output the yaml and run kubectl (I'm already doing this to great relief) Which is step 2 of my Enterprise adoption strategy. Step 1 is starting with validation, step 3 and beyond is where the real fun starts!
- aprdm 6y agoHope that works for you ! Your statement above has nothing to do with yaml being on the way out...
- verdverm 6y agowell, then perhaps the growing frustration with a configuration language where meaning depends on invisible chars is an argument. And then what helm and others are doing text interpolating and add helpers for managing indentation. There are many experiments into alternatives happening right now, so I do believe yaml's days are numbered. I'm actively replacing it where ever I encounter it with a far superior alternative. Cue is far more than a configuration language however, worth the time to learn and adopt at this point.
- aprdm 6y agoThere are so many configuration files format and language already. The problem you describe seems to be fixed by XML for example