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As a non-American I've never really understood this "oh, in state is still cheap" argument. Does every state have a top university? What if your state doesn't h

As a non-American I've never really understood this "oh, in state is still cheap" argument. Does every state have a top university? What if your state doesn't have a good university for what you want to study? UNC sounds nice for people lucky enough to have been born in NC but why should out of state people pay more? Or do people move to a state specifically for the universities?

blawson 6y ago
States pay for higher education systems as a part of their budget. From https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/article239388568.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/article239..., $800 million from North Carolina tax payers to universities it sounds like. Meanwhile, Germany is re-introducing fees for non EU residents: https://www.studying-in-germany.org/germany-will-reintroduce-tuition-fees-non-eu-students/ https://www.studying-in-germany.org/germany-will-reintroduce....
- barry-cotter 6y ago
  > Meanwhile, Germany is re-introducing fees for non EU residents: €1500 per semester. Nothing compared to zzz USA or even UK fees.
  - red_admiral 6y ago
    That's how the UK fees started under Blair. Then Cameron came in, the principle of free education had already been abandoned, so all he had to do was tweak the price.
pclmulqdq 6y ago
Remember that many US states are the size of European countries. This is the same deal that many countries in Europe have: subsidized tuition for residents. Also, a lot of state systems have good schools: UC Berkeley, UMass Amherst, UIUC, UT Austin, and UW Madison come to mind.
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unishark 6y ago
Education is considered a state responsibility, not federal. Every state generally has a "flagship" university. And they usually have the important stuff covered, such as professional schools, so that their state's population has these needed skills. If you are a smart enough student that you would gain admission to one of the highly-ranked flagship universities of another state, you are going to win scholarships to private schools too. The lower the rankings you are willing to go, the better scholarships you can get. You can relocate to get in-state benefits but it may take awhile as states put conditions (e.g. living there for a year first, having a a job, etc) specifically to prevent people doing this.

blawson 6y ago

States pay for higher education systems as a part of their budget. From https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/article239388568.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/article239..., $800 million from North Carolina tax payers to universities it sounds like. Meanwhile, Germany is re-introducing fees for non EU residents: https://www.studying-in-germany.org/germany-will-reintroduce-tuition-fees-non-eu-students/ https://www.studying-in-germany.org/germany-will-reintroduce....

barry-cotter 6y ago
> Meanwhile, Germany is re-introducing fees for non EU residents: €1500 per semester. Nothing compared to zzz USA or even UK fees.
- red_admiral 6y ago
  That's how the UK fees started under Blair. Then Cameron came in, the principle of free education had already been abandoned, so all he had to do was tweak the price.

pclmulqdq 6y ago

Remember that many US states are the size of European countries. This is the same deal that many countries in Europe have: subsidized tuition for residents. Also, a lot of state systems have good schools: UC Berkeley, UMass Amherst, UIUC, UT Austin, and UW Madison come to mind.

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unishark 6y ago

Education is considered a state responsibility, not federal. Every state generally has a "flagship" university. And they usually have the important stuff covered, such as professional schools, so that their state's population has these needed skills. If you are a smart enough student that you would gain admission to one of the highly-ranked flagship universities of another state, you are going to win scholarships to private schools too. The lower the rankings you are willing to go, the better scholarships you can get. You can relocate to get in-state benefits but it may take awhile as states put conditions (e.g. living there for a year first, having a a job, etc) specifically to prevent people doing this.